None Smoking designated areas for familys with small children

[ddean]

How do I get the venue to set up designated areas for (NO SMOKING PERMITTED IN THIS AREA)? We have gone to Stagecoach the past two years and enjoy the entire experience except the constant cigarette smoke surrounding us. Both years my two daughers and I moved constantly to avoid the cigarette smoke. I do not want to restrict the entire Polo Field, simply a few areas for families with young children who do not smoke.

Thank you kindly.

[Teacher_Sam]

i thought there was a kid area? in the big date palm mister things? were people smoking in there?

[UKNOWME]

if your that worried about people smoking at a country concert then maybe you shouldn't bring your kids...

FYI... my son has cystic fibrosis and im not that paranoid over it its an outdoor venue.

[Cooter]

hey, i have cf, too...31 years and still(kinda) kicking...

[Rose]

I feel so bad and I'm sorry to everyone who put up with my second hand cigarette smoke for 25 years.

[UKNOWME]

hey, i have cf, too...31 years and still(kinda) kicking...

Hey cooter what a small world my boy is 6 he terns 7 just b4 SC but he won't be there. So you understand what I ment it's a matter of choise I mean I smoke but not up wind fom my soon he knows to stay away when dad is smoking and I'm never all owww don't smoke to people I mean if your out side it's going to be that big of a deal you know. But on an other note how old where you when you where diagnosed?

[Janell24]

I don't smoke and I don't like smoke but its an outside venue, I could see your concern if the concert was inside and everyone had to breath in the smoke. Don't stand or sit near people who are smoking and stay in the kids area if your that concerned about it.

[Kymery]

I don't smoke and I don't like smoke but its an outside venue, I could see your concern if the concert was inside and everyone had to breath in the smoke. Don't stand or sit near people who are smoking and stay in the kids area if your that concerned about it.

I think this is her concern, not taking sides, but they moved a few times just to be near someone again. They are just asking for a "family area" or no smoking area. I think it is a wonderful idea. Especially to keep this a family friendly event, why not have an area for families to sit, not with all us drunk crazy people.

[scarr]

I heard on the news that they are making a vaccine to make you quit smoking. I am hopelessly addicted.

[UKNOWME]

ya its not like you have assigned seating where your not allowed to move or sit where ever you want you get to chose where to sit so just dont sit near smokers

[caligirlUCR]

I think this is her concern, not taking sides, but they moved a few times just to be near someone again. They are just asking for a "family area" or no smoking area. I think it is a wonderful idea. Especially to keep this a family friendly event, why not have an area for families to sit, not with all us drunk crazy people.

Yes but its just really hard to control - u can call an area "family" section but u will still get people who smoke, are rowdy, ect in the area - especially if its a good spot!

[Countrygurl]

For people who would like to quit smoking, I recommend this book. I know a few people first hand who inexplicably this worked for. http://www.theeasywaytostopsmoking.com/

http://www.theeasywaytostopsmoking.com/Portals/0/SiteImages/bookcover100.jpg

[Kymery]

Yes but its just really hard to control - u can call an area "family" section but u will still get people who smoke, are rowdy, ect in the area - especially if its a good spot!

Very true, but we are moving to a time where there are "designated" smoking areas, and 2nd hand smoke is illegal in some places.

[UKNOWME]

but we shouldn't be... all that is is the government taking away my right to be free living my life my way

[Cooter]

actually, freedom is being free of cigarettes...right now you are a slave to nicotine, haha :)

and in my reckless younger years i will admit that i smoked...with a lung disease...and not just cigarettes...and not just weed...ah, crack! j/k...maybe. quit smoking cigs before my first kid was born and have never even missed it, not once. still partake in the mary every once in awhile, though...

[Kymery]

actually, freedom is being free of cigarettes...right now you are a slave to nicotine, haha :)

and in my reckless younger years i will admit that i smoked...with a lung disease...and not just cigarettes...and not just weed...ah, crack! j/k...maybe. quit smoking cigs before my first kid was born and have never even missed it, not once. still partake in the mary every once in awhile, though...

Cooter, that just may be the smartest, heart felt thing I have ever heard you say!! whoo hoo!! (i know it won't last long, but I am gonna relish for now):D

I agree with people should have the freedom to smoke, but not at MY expense. 2nd hand smoke is very very bad for me, and the whole world. I have bad lungs due to a major fire accident I was in, and I know at SC, as well as other events, it is almost impossible to find a spot that no one is smoking, so why not have designated areas, that way we are all happy!! I would never, ever impose my habits on anyone else or make them miserable, I would respect my neighbors and take my habit where it was ok to do so.

Just good for thought.

[UKNOWME]

actually, freedom is being free of cigarettes...right now you are a slave to nicotine, haha :)

and in my reckless younger years i will admit that i smoked...with a lung disease...and not just cigarettes...and not just weed...ah, crack! j/k...maybe. quit smoking cigs before my first kid was born and have never even missed it, not once. still partake in the mary every once in awhile, though...

what where you trying to kill your self? but well so you understand both side of the coin. all im saying is no one has the right to tell anyone what to do i am an American not a communist even if our president doesn't believe in personal liberties.......I DO AND WILL ALWAYS FIGHT FOR THEM EVEN IF NO ONE ELSE WILL. even if i don't agree with someone i will still stand and fight for them to have there own rights and opinions..........

[UKNOWME]

also even if they did make a non smoking area people would still smoke near that area and depending on the wind you would still smell the smoke and we all know how crowed that place is how would you enforce it and by day 2 you wouldn't be able to tell where you could and could not do to all the people. and what about those people who could only find a place to sit near the smoking area how fair would it be to them to make them be exposed to the non stop smoking in that area because every smoker at SC was going over there to smoke?

[Cooter]

for some reason i actually seemed to be "healthier" while smoking, not sure if it was because i was coughing more so it kept the shit from building up in my lungs or what. i was out of the hospital for something like 2 years straight, not in like the usual 3 to 4 times a year.

i will admit, though, that second hand smoke is not half as bad as the dust out there. i'll save the gory details of my lungs "exploding" for another time, haha. now at coachella/stagecoach i always have a bandana or dust mask handy handy.

if you ever take your son out there please be sure to keep him protected, uknowme. i had numerous specialists trying to figure out what the hell kinda bugs i had, even had to send a specimen back east to cornell univ. for a special study to find a drug that would combat them. some nasty stuff in that horse piss/crap that litters the field year round, i guess. not to mention the human bodily fluids that end up there over the two weekends, haha...

[Kymery]

Well, on the flip side, why don't I have a choice to do what I want? So....You get to smoke next to me no matter what, cuz that is "your right to kill me, my neighbors, my kids etc"? and I have to put up with it and suffer OR go out of MY way to find clean air that this world was created with?

You said you have a son with CF right? I have a huge history with my family being involved with this and thousands of dollars from my family has been donated to this cause thru racing, baseball, and my parents being on the board back in the day. So I understand completely about the disease. You said you make sure you do not smoke in front/near/by/close etc to them? What makes your kids more special than mine, or my neighbors that you can't take the smoking somewhere else. I mean really, YOU (by that i mean smokers in general) are the one polluting, putting the carcinogens in the air, not us...right? Which in return, causes lung cancer to us innocent by standers?

ps...this isn't to be a beeatch to you, just and honest open argument.

[UKNOWME]

cooter sorry to hear that i guess im lucky my soon hasn't been back in sens he was released at 1 month old..im still keeping the hope alive :D

[Cooter]

with all the technology available today we will be able to live much longer, much fuller lives...try not to stress too much :) didn't think i'd make it past 21...now here i am with an amazing life(even though it's still a daily struggle), 2 kids, and a wonderful woman...it was worth sticking around, haha!

you can always pm me if you have any questions/concerns...

[Kymery]

also even if they did make a non smoking area people would still smoke near that area and depending on the wind you would still smell the smoke and we all know how crowed that place is how would you enforce it and by day 2 you wouldn't be able to tell where you could and could not do to all the people. and what about those people who could only find a place to sit near the smoking area how fair would it be to them to make them be exposed to the non stop smoking in that area because every smoker at SC was going over there to smoke?

Wait...re-read what you wrote. You said "what about those people who could only find a place to sit near the smoking are, how fair would it be to them" but in your previous post you said to go find another spot. My point exactly, where do I go??!!

Yes, there will always be a point of no return, the edge of the smoking world, the smoking box, area etc... but at least we will know "where it is"!!. And then THAT would be our choice knowing it was there, not the choice of someone else blowing it in my face.

Yes you can argue the wind, but if you take out a major portion of the equation and narrow it down, being, a smoking area...then we can move to a more positive outcome in the long run.

[UKNOWME]

My son knows that smoke is bad and he knows to stay away from it when I smoke he moves to an area to where he can't smell it if all parents taught there kids to do the same we wouldn't be having this conversation. And even if I where to smoke right in front of you it would be over in less than 5 min and it's not like your not getting just as much cancer causing silica or other wise known as dust just buy walking around SC

[Kymery]

My son knows that smoke is bad and he knows to stay away from it when I smoke he moves to an area to where he can't smell it if all parents taught there kids to do the same we wouldn't be having this conversation. And even if I where to smoke right in front of you it would be over in less than 5 min and it's not like your not getting just as much cancer causing silica or other wise known as dust just buy walking around SC

So you make your child leave where you are? He has to leave his dad? Hmmm...Ok, then that is how it is in your home. Wait, do you smoke in your home and he has to go outside, do you smoke in your car, does he have to stay home when you go somewhere?

As for "he can't smell it". I am sure you are aware it isn't the smell that is toxic, right?

Now...wait..it would "be over in less than 5 min" if I was to be next to you smoking? Ok, how many times will you light up during the two days at SC? Then are you the only one that smokes? No..there are others also. So multiply that out. I could only be so lucky if it was only you, and only one time in less than 5 minutes, only one time.

All I say it this, be fair. If what you are doing is harming others, and IT IS!!...then why it is such an inconvenience for you to smoke in an "area" designated for smokers. I am hearing you asking me to do what I am asking you.

Ok, here is an offer, truce......then make a "non smoking designated area"!!! I am fine with that, and that would still be the percentage of land open for us non-smokers as if they were to make a "smoking designated" area. Fair??? :D

[UKNOWME]

I don't smoke in the car or in my house I only smoke outside. I think it is discusting when people smoke in there home or car my son never has to leave where we are I alwase step aside to smoke but this isn't about me it about having the right to smoke when you want to not being told ow you can only smoke over there in this area. That's fashisam

[Kymery]

I don't smoke in the car or in my house I only smoke outside. I think it is discusting when people smoke in there home or car my son never has to leave where we are I alwase step aside to smoke but this isn't about me it about having the right to smoke when you want to not being told ow you can only smoke over there in this area. That's fashisam

Ok, thank you for clarifying the smoking around your child thing. I was trying to not read between the lines.

ok, fair, and this may be left field, but how about having the right to murder...is that ok? And many would think that lighting up and blowing smoke where ever you want is attempted murder. 2nd hand smoke is not a guessing game anymore..it is fact.

Would you want someone having the "right" to injur the peson next to you, your mom, wife, sister, brother, strangers I mean in ANY way possible just cuz this is a free country and they feel they have the right and dont believe in fashism? This is what you are condoning.

I also, do not want to be told what to do, but there has to be law and order to retain freedom.

If you consider medical technology Fashist, then so be it, I am Fashist...but for your son's sake I hope not and I hope you pray for medical technology to prove what helps and hurts, and to ANYTHING to help him, as well as other people with health problems...I would hope you would be the better person and step aside and let us breath the cleanest air we can.:D

[UKNOWME]

It's not about med tec it's about the right to live free without other people interfearing on your rights I'm not saying that you don't have the right to breath clean air. And the merder thing come on now if we all live my the rules put forth to us by the bible and only those rules this world would be a better place with out palatitions interfearing

[gaypalmsprings]

Is there a section designated for medical marijuana?

[festivalfan]

Is there a section designated for medical marijuana?

ha ha ha ha .....that wacki tabacki was everywhere..!

[UKNOWME]

I smelt more of that than regular smokes

[Miss B]

Is there a section designated for medical marijuana?

if only ;)

[tgcali]

Am I the only one that noticed that GPS posted words, not a picture......?

[Miss B]

Am I the only one that noticed that GPS posted words, not a picture......?

lol i noticed! :eek:

[Cooter]

i'll make up for it...here's the mj smoking area at the venue:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/forgotaboutsteve/IMG_1967.jpg

stagecoach really misses out on that nice, lush green grass...

[Miss B]

HILARIOUS :)

[UKNOWME]

i'll make up for it...here's the mj smoking area at the venue:
stagecoach really misses out on that nice, lush green grass...

ya we miss out on the green grass we just get dead grass and lots of dust.mmmmmmmmmmmm good old dust got got to love the way that taste and the way it feels when your breathing it in ;)

[Chevgirl357]

I think this is her concern, not taking sides, but they moved a few times just to be near someone again. They are just asking for a "family area" or no smoking area. I think it is a wonderful idea. Especially to keep this a family friendly event, why not have an area for families to sit, not with all us drunk crazy people.

Are there really people there who aren't drunk and crazy?? LOL, I sort of agree, if it's advertised as a "family event" there should be an area, but I highly doubt anybody would respect that, a lot of parents smoke anyhow, and how would they enforce it with 60,000 people? Makes sense to have one, just don't see how it would actually happen. I personally don't view Stagecoach as a family event, but maybe that's just what it's turned into....I've only been once!

[Chevgirl357]

Hmmm...not sure I really wanna weigh in, but I guess I see both sides. I smoke, don't consider myself a smoker, I rarely smoke on the days my son is home, and I often go days without a cigarette. I don't like my son being around cigarette smoke, and think it's rude when people light up around kids. I do not take offense if I'm smoking and somebody asks me to move away from them. As a courtesy I normally stand away anyhow.

At WWF I would stand in the aisle of the seats back by a trash can to smoke so it didn't bother anyone (unfortunately the lasy in fron of me didn't have the same courtesy and made me nauseous with all her smoke). Yes, secondhand smoke makes me nauseous, lol.

BUt SC is a little different in that it's a huge open area. To make people go to a designated are to smoke would be a bit difficult at the least since there are so many of them/us. I think what probably makes more sense, IF they can do it, would be a non-smoking area, with signs posted heavily, and security specifically for that area.

Off my soapbox now :)

[UKNOWME]

Hmmm...not sure I really wanna weigh in, but I guess I see both sides. I smoke, don't consider myself a smoker, I rarely smoke on the days my son is home, and I often go days without a cigarette. I don't like my son being around cigarette smoke, and think it's rude when people light up around kids. I do not take offense if I'm smoking and somebody asks me to move away from them. As a courtesy I normally stand away anyhow.

At WWF I would stand in the aisle of the seats back by a trash can to smoke so it didn't bother anyone (unfortunately the lasy in fron of me didn't have the same courtesy and made me nauseous with all her smoke). Yes, secondhand smoke makes me nauseous, lol.

BUt SC is a little different in that it's a huge open area. To make people go to a designated are to smoke would be a bit difficult at the least since there are so many of them/us. I think what probably makes more sense, IF they can do it, would be a non-smoking area, with signs posted heavily, and security specifically for that area.

Off my soapbox now :)

i agree with you on this i am the same way if they made a non smoking area that would be fine. i just don't think it is fair to tell people you have to go over somewhere to smoke. i also typically move away from people also but in an area like SC your always near someone and if someone seed to me can you please not smoke right hear as long as they where nice about it i would be ok with it but if the were all bitchy about it with attitude id tell them to go &@#% them selfs

[ddean]

I am sorry if I offended some people with my question. That was not my intention. If a non-smoking area is announced, I’m just hoping, smokers will respect my and others choice not to be directly in the line of their smoke. It does make a difference if the smoke is coming from a distance as a pose to having two people on either side of you smoking, even in a large area. Last year the area with the beautiful wood work (trees) did have a few scattered signs no smoking to prevent the art from catching fire. Thank you all for your comments

[Kymery]

I am sorry if I offended some people with my question. That was not my intention. If a non-smoking area is announced, I’m just hoping, smokers will respect my and others choice not to be directly in the line of their smoke. It does make a difference if the smoke is coming from a distance as a pose to having two people on either side of you smoking, even in a large area. Last year the area with the beautiful wood work (trees) did have a few scattered signs no smoking to prevent the art from catching fire. Thank you all for your comments

Definately no offense taken. Just a good friendly debate.

Chev..true, with 60k people, but it is a wish I can keep wishing on right? And I am not one of the sober ones, but I stay sober enough to not offend (at least I hope) anyone next to me....even when Kid came on and sang that ....gulp..."adult" song, I thought it was a blast, but then I was feeling bad for the families around me that came to the event. They deserved better than that.

[UKNOWME]

No one got mad but it was a good talking point that way all sides where all able to have input

[tgcali]

Can't be too much whining about that song. It's not his. It's a David Allen Coe song. He was just giving the country fans their own music.......

Come on, he's Kid Rock. What did anyone expect? Seriously. I brought my child KNOWING there would be language during his set. She's in middle school, she probably uses worse on campus herself.....

[Kymery]

No one got mad but it was a good talking point that way all sides where all able to have input

Very very true.. and I personally thank you for the great debate!:D:D

[Kymery]

Can't be too much whining about that song. It's not his. It's a David Allen Coe song. He was just giving the country fans their own music.......

Come on, he's Kid Rock. What did anyone expect? Seriously. I brought my child KNOWING there would be language during his set. She's in middle school, she probably uses worse on campus herself.....

Oh, I agree, but he was doing so well keeping it family and the fans were chatting that it was awesome and then BAM...he threw that song out there. I loved it...but I did feel bad for the kids next to me. :(

[Countrygurl]

I remember when i was a kid, people smoked in grocery stores.. and at the bank. there were ashtrays at the teller windows.

how far we have come here in CA

[Kymery]

I used to be able to sing Seprano (more or less..hahaha) and after the days of bar hopping, country dancing my voice is much much rougher from all that 2nd hand smoke. Now I probably sound more like Mellissa Ethridge! The upside...I am told I have a sexy phone voice. I love being able to come home not smelling like a park of Marlboro's. Plus, I don't have the hangovers I used to....Now that is an improvement!!!

Ding Ding...my light bulb just went off...what the hell am I doing in Nursing school, I could be a phone sex operator!! DUHHHHH

[tgcali]

I hear what you're saying Kymery. I just can't feel bad for those people. They knew months in advance that Kid Rock was performing. They didn't have to have the kids there when he came on. There were no notices or announcements saying he would be 'family friendly'. It was an assumption. He shouldn't be blamed for their assumptions.

Yes, SC touts itself as a family friendly event, and it is as a general rule, but you have to take a look at the artist you're taking your child to see perform. They didn't make any demands of him to be family friendly and they didn't say they were going to. To assume so is an error not of his making. He did an extremely toned down version of his normal show. An effort he wasn't required to make.

To expect any more of an artist as racy as Kid Rock is naive. I think people need to be more accountable for their own actions. They made the choice.

As far as the children being exposed to that language by parents that didn't think their actions through......how you react tells your child what is good/bad or right/wrong. Becoming outraged in front of the child by vulgar language from a vulgar artist (which is hypocritical in my opinion) tells your child something bad just happened. Keep those feelings out of the hearing of the kids and they'd probably not realize anything untoward had happened. At least for the littler ones. The older ones, like Little Bit, are using that language in school. If they don't believe their precious babies capable of that, they need to take their heads out of the sand and have a chat with the school personnel.

Also, I practice what I preach. There have been numerous occasions in the course of Little Bit's life that I've been outraged/offended by behavior/actions/language in her presence that was not appropriate to the situation in my opinion. I forced myself to be mindful of the fact that she takes her cues from me, kept my thoughts to myself with her present and got her out of there. That's my responsibility as a parent.

Climbing off soapbox now, who's next? :p

[Kymery]

I agree all the way.

But I know we don't know if Kid wasn't supposed to do those "types of songs" in the contract. Guess we will never know. He said something to that affect on stage, like "he wasn't supposed to be doing that song" (cant recall the exact words) and all I thought was ohhhh nooooo.

I agree, parents knew he was there...but what are we gonna do about it. I just felt bad on MY part no matter what. I am just that way.

[Rose]

Gosh, I do remember the good old days when EVERYBODY had an ash tray at their work desks, you could smoke on an airplane and the very first time I ever smoked was with my Grandma when I was 5. There are pictures of my little brother smoking a pipe with my dad at around age 3. Times sure have changed.

Now being an ex smoker I'm glad I live in California because it's soooo unacceptable to smoke here compared to anywhere else.

[Kymery]

Gosh, I do remember the good old days when EVERYBODY had an ash tray at their work desks, you could smoke on an airplane and the very first time I ever smoked was with my Grandma when I was 5. There are pictures of my little brother smoking a pipe with my dad at around age 3. Times sure have changed.

Now being an ex smoker I'm glad I live in California because it's soooo unacceptable to smoke here compared to anywhere else.

It is nice to hear from ex-smokers happy that things/laws have changed! Glad that you don't smoke anymore chikie...Or I could never share a hotel room with you again!:D:D

[Cooter]

I agree all the way.

But I know we don't know if Kid wasn't supposed to do those "types of songs" in the contract.

goldenvoice does not tell artists what they can or can't play, say, etc. that would be ridiculous. it would be like telling a painter how to paint.

[caligirlUCR]

I remember when i was a kid, people smoked in grocery stores.. and at the bank. there were ashtrays at the teller windows.

how far we have come here in CA

lol . . its always funny to me when I go to vegas and i see someone smoking inside and I go HE . . . and then I realize im not in Cali anymore . . .

[UKNOWME]

Gosh, I do remember the good old days when EVERYBODY had an ash tray at their work desks, you could smoke on an airplane and the very first time I ever smoked was with my Grandma when I was 5. There are pictures of my little brother smoking a pipe with my dad at around age 3. Times sure have changed.

Now being an ex smoker I'm glad I live in California because it's soooo unacceptable to smoke here compared to anywhere else.

i to remember the good old day of smoking or non smoking ares in restaurants and being able to smoke in bars and not having to stand out in the rain to have a smoke aaaaaaaaa the good old day i sure miss you :( but i degrees hey cooter its not golden voice that puts on SC any more now its AEG live.. and i agree with tgcali it is the parents responsibility to know whats going on i know i would never bring my son to SC because of all the drunk crazys. ow ya and if they do a family area i believe that the should not only not allow smoking in that area but also no drinking because of the children should not have to be exposed to all the drunks...

[Countrygurl]

hey cooter its not golden voice that puts on SC any more now its AEG live..

its goldenvoice putting on SC. I am here at the GV offices as I type this. we are working on SC right now. its gv staff. great peeps I have been working with for many many years. not sure where you are getting your mis-information from

[UKNOWME]

well my bad IM SORRY i get an email from AEG and it was talking about SC so i just assumed

[Kymery]

its goldenvoice putting on SC. I am here at the GV offices as I type this. we are working on SC right now. its gv staff. great peeps I have been working with for many many years. not sure where you are getting your mis-information from

It is pages like this that say this. Although I know it is GV, it is misleading as to who/what etc.

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS119791+07-Apr-2009+PRN20090407

quote

AEG Live is pushing the boundaries in all aspects of live entertainment and
multi-media production touting such festivals as All Points West Music & Arts
Festival, Bumbershoot (Seattle's Music & Arts Festival), Coachella Music &
Arts Festival, Mile High Music Festival, New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival,
Rock On The Range, Rock Fest, Rothbury and the Stagecoach Country Music
Festival.

[Countrygurl]

they are the parent company.

http://stagecoachfestival.com © 2009 Goldenvoice

[UKNOWME]

sooooo technically yes but no because AEG owns golden voice

[calichristina]

i thought bringing the little ones would be cool since we didnt bring em last year, but after seeing how packed it was....i changed my mind...i would have to superglue my childs hand to mine just to go through the crowds..i totally lost grips with my friends hand when we were walking through to see kid rock...but im sure the alcOhol didnt help either....LOL..

[UKNOWME]

i thought bringing the little ones would be cool since we didnt bring em last year, but after seeing how packed it was....i changed my mind...i would have to superglue my childs hand to mine just to go through the crowds..i totally lost grips with my friends hand when we were walking through to see kid rock...but im sure the alcOhol didnt help either....LOL..

my thoughts exactly:eek:

[Chevgirl357]

It is nice to hear from ex-smokers happy that things/laws have changed! Glad that you don't smoke anymore chikie...Or I could never share a hotel room with you again!:D:D

Hey, I'm a sort of smoker and ex real smoker (LOL, I know, I'm in denial), and I love that you can't smoke in restaurants. Nasty!


i to remember the good old day of smoking or non smoking ares in restaurants and being able to smoke in bars and not having to stand out in the rain to have a smoke aaaaaaaaa the good old day i sure miss you :( but i degrees hey cooter its not golden voice that puts on SC any more now its AEG live.. and i agree with tgcali it is the parents responsibility to know whats going on i know i would never bring my son to SC because of all the drunk crazys. ow ya and if they do a family area i believe that the should not only not allow smoking in that area but also no drinking because of the children should not have to be exposed to all the drunks...


Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a pool.

[tgcali]

I agree completely when it comes to little ones but Little Bit is thirteen. It's quite different to me bringing her than it would be if she were seven or something. First year we went she was eleven (I think I said ten, but on further thought she was eleven).

If she were still that age even I wouldn't bring her with what it's turned into, but she remembers that first year and what it was like just like I do and she's grown tremendously in her maturity in those two short years (they all do, big difference between 11 and 13!). This has become our tradition and we look forward to it so much. It's great fun for us to talk about and get excited about. Making memories.:)

[Chevgirl357]

I agree completely when it comes to little ones but Little Bit is thirteen. It's quite different to me bringing her than it would be if she were seven or something. First year we went she was eleven (I think I said ten, but on further thought she was eleven).

If she were still that age even I wouldn't bring her with what it's turned into, but she remembers that first year and what it was like just like I do and she's grown tremendously in her maturity in those two short years (they all do, big difference between 11 and 13!). This has become our tradition and we look forward to it so much. It's great fun for us to talk about and get excited about. Making memories.:)

ANd here I was trying to cut her out of it! LOL :p

[UKNOWME]

Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a pool.

that made me lmao but still in all the other 49 state you can still smoke in restaurants i dont know if you have ever been out of ca except veges but when you go to eat the ask you smoking or non but still that was funny :D

[tgcali]

ANd here I was trying to cut her out of it! LOL :p

Ooohhh, I'm tellin'......

[ddean]

We have not experienced encounters with extremely intoxicated people so that has not worried me. I do keep my girls close and tend to sit near others with kids to avoid potential situations. Stagecoach can be a fun family experience if you plan well. We played a board game then visited the kids’ area during Kid Rocks performance. So, my girls did not hear or see a thing. I was prepared for him.
I hope everyone have a great experience this coming Stagecoach.

[Chevgirl357]

that made me lmao but still in all the other 49 state you can still smoke in restaurants i dont know if you have ever been out of ca except veges but when you go to eat the ask you smoking or non but still that was funny :D

Nope, not ALL other 49 states. In fact most states now you can't. NY and AZ for sure because I've been to both recently, but I have friends who live all over the country and most you can't smoke in a restaurant. Pretty sure you can't in Ohio (I've been there) and not in Hawaii either (been there too, at least Kona).

[UKNOWME]

ow ya well :p:p:p im sure that laws are changing every day in regards to that but that's just another example of how things change over time...:(:(:(

[WillieCash]

Jesus Christ on a cracker....

While we're at it can we get a pee free area at the public pool?

(Damnit, didn't see someone beat me to the chase...)