Gasoline

[Rose]

Will "cheap" Gasoline be 5.00 a gallon before we purchase our Stagecoach tickets or afterward? :eek:

[horsephotographer]

Good thread rose....
Yes I heard on CNN...
That it may hit 15.00 a gallon.
Friends of mine in other countries are and have been paying 8-11 dollars a gallon....
So guess we have been too spoiled.
Wonder how empty the Eldorado's 1 and will be next stagecoach:rolleyes: ?????

[KuntryGal]

unfortunately - probably after.....UGH! you had to bring that one up?

[hillbillyRockstar]

I've searched around for the best form of mass transportation and have found that vanpooling is the best. I started it about 7 months ago.

Just in case you need this info in the future: If you can get a handful of people together, you have it made. It beats buses and trains because it is more personalized to you (drops you off at the doorstep instead of a station miles away, you pick the people, etc.)

Of course, this will be needed more if $15 comes around.

[horsephotographer]

I've searched around for the best form of mass transportation and have found that vanpooling is the best. I started it about 7 months ago.

Just in case you need this info in the future: If you can get a handful of people together, you have it made. It beats buses and trains because it is more personalized to you (drops you off at the doorstep instead of a station miles away, you pick the people, etc.)

Of course, this will be needed more if $15 comes around.
thats a great idea...
In Europe they have car sharing.Saves people around 4,000.00 a year and sponsored by each city .Kinda like a costco membership of 100.00 a year then you use the share care when needed.No insurance paid or car payments..
I bet the lobbyist will stop that one from the auto makers to the insurance companies...
We all need to help and I very happy to hear you do your part..
Great job....:cool:

[Kymery]

Can you imagine...I just went to fill my Diesel truck at the 76 station, the dang machine stops at $75, which is not even 1/2 tank! So, I have to re-enter my card and add more.

IF it gets up to $15 per gal...ugh, my bank is gonna think someone is fraudulantly using my card.

I just got my daughters honda civic running that I gave her at 16, she now drives a mustange her father got her for grad last year, so the honda is now my put put car...although my step son turns 16 this weekend and it will be his, but for now it is MINE...alllll mine!! No one elses!! nanny nanny...(ok, nothing to be proud of, junkie, blue, beat up...but great on gas! so dont laugh at me when I drive by with my head hung low)

[horsephotographer]

Ok..
Am I imagining or did gas just go up another 20cents over night???
My smaller car takes only premium...
I have parked my E and think maybe I should hook my show mare up to her cart.I knew those huge trainer's bills would pay off some day....:eek:
I love that mare....:D
Calling my husband...Honey where are the blinders?????lol

[DISNEYCHIC2]

There was a report today on FoxNews saying that the USA is getting gas for a deal.. In the UK it is $8.00 a gallon. Could you imagine us all pulling up to StageCoach in SMART Cars?..... That would solve any parking problems they might have had...LOL

[KuntryGal]

I have a friend that lives in London and she is always telling me how lucky we have always been to not be paying the prices for gas that they have been paying for years.

I guess we should all be greateful that we live in the goos ole US of A

[horsephotographer]

There was a report today on FoxNews saying that the USA is getting gas for a deal.. In the UK it is $8.00 a gallon. Could you imagine us all pulling up to StageCoach in SMART Cars?..... That would solve any parking problems they might have had...LOL
too funny...
Wow that tent area will be booked fast....:)
This girls idea of camping rig or not is a hotel without down and no iron....:eek:
Those days were left far behind :cool: ....

[DISNEYCHIC2]

too funny...
Wow that tent area will be booked fast....:)
This girls idea of camping rig or not is a hotel without down and no iron....:eek:
Those days were left far behind :cool: ....

GO GO GADGET......SMART CAR!

[horsephotographer]

GO GO GADGET......SMART CAR!
Too funny.....lol
You crack me up...

[hillbillyRockstar]

It is no secret we have cheaper gas.

Why do you think that is? Hint: Who owns most of the largest companies around?

[horsephotographer]

It is no secret we have cheaper gas.

Why do you think that is? Hint: Who owns most of the largest companies around?
Would that be a bush....????;)

[hillbillyRockstar]

Would that be a bush....????;)

Nope.

It is further East than Bush.

[horsephotographer]

Nope.

It is further East than Bush.

Oh yes....
I know exactly what you mean...
I thought you first meant Bush's oil Fields they own in Texas and there retirement plan...lol

[Rose]

How much gas prices are going up on a daily basis I'm guessing it will be 5.00 per gallon before Stagecoach tickets go on sale. :mad:

[horsephotographer]

How much gas prices are going up on a daily basis I'm guessing it will be 5.00 per gallon before Stagecoach tickets go on sale. :mad:.
I don't know about you but here it is already over 5.00 for diesel and 4.58 for super and 4.38 for reg...:mad:
I'm guessing 5.00 for reg by the end of the month....:eek:
We pay it they will keep raising it kinda like limbo yet the bar is going the wrong way.....
Boy that bus system was looking full this morning .
I see more and more waiting on the bench's.......

Yeah.. Today was the last day of school for my daughter till fall no more driving 20 min each way to palm desert 5 days a week....:cool:
Private school is a killer drive wise....
What will I do with all my extra cash????:rolleyes:

[scarr]

OC gas prices are here :eek: http://www.orangecountygasprices.com/ :eek:

Other areas can be selected from that page.

[horsephotographer]

OC gas prices are here :eek: http://www.orangecountygasprices.com/ :eek:

Other areas can be selected from that page.
Great site scarr... Thank you....:)

[Cooter]

until i see people slow the f**k down then i don't want to hear any more complaining from them about gas prices. does no one realize how much gas they would save if they would go 65 instead of 85? if they slowly accelerated when the light turns green? everyone is always in such a hurry for no reason at all.

[horsephotographer]

National averages now over 4.oo..
Start to hyper drive....
Learn how to on line....
Save and get up 70 miles per gallon...:)

[KuntryGal]

cooter - you are so so right!

i promise i am trying to be better with all that - but bad habits dontcha know!...

[sunkisses]

I'm seriously thinking of buying a "previously loved", small, fuel efficient car. Hell if it were cheaper, I'd drive a pinto at this point and laugh at everyone else rolling by in their gas guzzling, black smoke belching, diesel hogs. I would have the last laugh! Even in the pinto!

[Cooter]

many of the people, at least around us, have no problem filling up their cliche escalades and navigators...f'ing lemming newport mom's.

we, on the other hand, just got our second new car in as many weeks...now rolling in the family friendly mazda5(the raddest little mini minivan) AND racing in an infiniti g35, both with damn good mileage! of course, it's gonna suck when the leases end on both cars within a couple weeks of each other, but hopefully by then the lady will have sold her client his $20 million mansion.

[hillbillyRockstar]

until i see people slow the f**k down then i don't want to hear any more complaining from them about gas prices. does no one realize how much gas they would save if they would go 65 instead of 85? if they slowly accelerated when the light turns green? everyone is always in such a hurry for no reason at all.

I agree here. After a red light, people always have to jet around me for some reason. Try taking a walk and see how fast people are going around corners too.



many of the people, at least around us, have no problem filling up their cliche escalades and navigators...f'ing lemming newport mom's.

we, on the other hand, just got our second new car in as many weeks...now rolling in the family friendly mazda5(the raddest little mini minivan) AND racing in an infiniti g35, both with damn good mileage! of course, it's gonna suck when the leases end on both cars within a couple weeks of each other, but hopefully by then the lady will have sold her client his $20 million mansion.


You can't make statements like this and think they're correct. People should buy cars--not lease them. Secondly, people should buy cars with the intention of keeping them for 10 years. These are the smart moves and have been historically. Now, all of a sudden, when gas prices have dramatically changed in the past one year, the people in the middle of a 10 year cycle are supposed to just up and get a new car? Plus, if you would actually look into what you are saying, you'd find that the resale value for full size SUVs has plumeted--so there is no way for these people to get out anyway.

Go have your wife make $20 million and then generously help out those newport moms if you'd like. Heck, with $20M you could give them your Mazda and buy something that actually has even better gas milage--since you obviously couldn't swing that right now...f'ing lemming Mazda drivers).

[hillbillyRockstar]

I'm seriously thinking of buying a "previously loved", small, fuel efficient car. Hell if it were cheaper, I'd drive a pinto at this point and laugh at everyone else rolling by in their gas guzzling, black smoke belching, diesel hogs. I would have the last laugh! Even in the pinto!

Did you care about the black smoke before the price of gas went up?

Just curious and thought I would bring this up. It seems a few years ago people were trying to curb global warming, etc. and others were totally against them. Now, since gas has gone up, it kind of seems the people that were against the curb are now all of a sudden tree huggers.

It just doesn't make sense to me. I'm not in any way saying you are, but your comment made me remember about this and so I thought I'd bring it up. What do you think?

[Rose]

My last car was 18 years old when she passed away and the car I'm currently driving is 12.

We all complain about jobs leaving the USA and our economy...anybody consider American Made Autos? I'm just saying.

[horsephotographer]

I agree here. After a red light, people always have to jet around me for some reason. Try taking a walk and see how fast people are going around corners too.



You can't make statements like this and think they're correct. People should buy cars--not lease them. Secondly, people should buy cars with the intention of keeping them for 10 years. These are the smart moves and have been historically. Now, all of a sudden, when gas prices have dramatically changed in the past one year, the people in the middle of a 10 year cycle are supposed to just up and get a new car? Plus, if you would actually look into what you are saying, you'd find that the resale value for full size SUVs has plumeted--so there is no way for these people to get out anyway.

Go have your wife make $20 million and then generously help out those Newport moms if you'd like. Heck, with $20M you could give them your Mazda and buy something that actually has even better gas mileage--since you obviously couldn't swing that right now...f'ing lemming Mazda drivers).
Yes...
I see you point on all avenues...
I have been a equine Realtor also for over 10 years...
The market is not that great yet still selling. I have decided to stay away from the business this year.It is way too much waste of fuel driving all the buyers around with too much inventory and making 20 offers wasting fuel.

I have one of those crazy escalades we all wanted years back and love it.
Yet it is older and paid for.I had thought lots of selling it and know no way want anew car payment.I have parked it in the garage and drive my BMW around also paid for yet 6 years old and no plans on getting a new car.When they are done and no longer work efficiently I will by a hybrid or wait until a new car has been created with new power option's this is coming. (Just a thought) Maybe this is why the gas Moguls want to make as much as they can now knowing there days are numbered....????

Yes so many different views come into play on the gas issue...
I enjoyed your post and point of view....:)

[Cooter]

You can't make statements like this and think they're correct. People should buy cars--not lease them. Secondly, people should buy cars with the intention of keeping them for 10 years. These are the smart moves and have been historically. Now, all of a sudden, when gas prices have dramatically changed in the past one year, the people in the middle of a 10 year cycle are supposed to just up and get a new car? Plus, if you would actually look into what you are saying, you'd find that the resale value for full size SUVs has plumeted--so there is no way for these people to get out anyway.

Go have your wife make $20 million and then generously help out those newport moms if you'd like. Heck, with $20M you could give them your Mazda and buy something that actually has even better gas milage--since you obviously couldn't swing that right now...f'ing lemming Mazda drivers).

why buy a car that depreciates the moment you drive it off the lot? i lease a car, never have to worry about paying for any repairs and in a few years have a nice new car. also, mazda's have no resale value, so why would i want to own it?

and piss off, i actually wanted the mazda. what gets better mileage than that and has all the room? i am getting close to 30 miles/gallon right now. screw a full size minivan or suv. i have a 2 year old daughter and a new baby due in a couple months, so the mazda is perfect. sliding side doors, captains chairs in the middle, plenty of room for strollers and other kid stuff and 3rd row seating if we need it. it is actually the best car out there for our needs, price didn't matter, it was just nice to get something at such a low cost.

and the wife isn't going to make $20 million, she is going to sell a $20 million dollar home, big difference.

[hillbillyRockstar]

why buy a car that depreciates the moment you drive it off the lot? i lease a car, never have to worry about paying for any repairs and in a few years have a nice new car. also, mazda's have no resale value, so why would i want to own it?

and piss off, i actually wanted the mazda. what gets better mileage than that and has all the room? i am getting close to 30 miles/gallon right now. screw a full size minivan or suv. i have a 2 year old daughter and a new baby due in a couple months, so the mazda is perfect. sliding side doors, captains chairs in the middle, plenty of room for strollers and other kid stuff and 3rd row seating if we need it. it is actually the best car out there for our needs, price didn't matter, it was just nice to get something at such a low cost.

and the wife isn't going to make $20 million, she is going to sell a $20 million dollar home, big difference.

OK, so let me get this straight. You got something that you needed--that fit your family situation, or however you want to term it.

So, thank you. You have just proven my point.

[horsephotographer]

Point well taken...
Everyone does what they feel fits....

[horsephotographer]

Ok...
Another 15 to 25 cents in just a few days...
Come on guys...
Maybe we should start a new bill that the salaries should get cut each day for all congress, senate state Assembly Governor ect...;)

Until gas prices are regulated as all other power sources in the country.
Any other idea's except how to drive or what to drive?

[horsephotographer]

I hear now could go up to 12.00-22.00 a gallon?

[Kymery]

Cooter and HMR...both have good points...it is all on what you do in your life that decides lease vs buy.

As for my truck, I know I want 300k miles out of it, YES a diesel, blows black smoke, but the only thing that hauls my rig ang 4x4's into the desert etc..also used so much at home just hauling, kids bikes, camping, home repairs, moving, etc etc...so for that reason I bought it, now paid off and plan on having it 2-3 more years.

As for our family car, I bought a BMW on a lease. I knew (although they hold the best value) that I only wanted it for 3 years so no reason to purchase it, just turn it in when done.

Now even at this point we ever leased a new family car, kids growing up and hubby has company van. So saving there too. Really no need for luxury, fun or family car at this point in life. I borrow my sons Honda Civic to put around to save gas.

When cars get older, many times they cost more to keep past 5 years than to just buy a new one.

[horsephotographer]

Interesting Tips on Pumping Gas


Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold.



Remember that all service station have their storage tanks buried below ground.
The colder the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon.

[TheMommie]

Has anyone else seen the Documentary "Who killed the electric car". I dont usually watch documentaries. But this one was quite interesting.

http://www.whokilledtheelectriccar.com/

[Kymery]

I will watch that....but probably the same people who are killing off the inventors of the 100+ mpg fuels...they either come up missing or dead....hmmm wonder why?

I heard on the radio about a guy who just discovered one that gets very very high mpg off mainly water, but with a bit of fuel in it...hope he doesnt dissapear too.

[Cooter]

my uncle has the patent on an engine that gets 100mpg, has gone through the testing phase and been put in a car and everything. he has already received a ton of interest from automakers, just needs a few more tweaks. they have even had a super bowl commercial ready for the last couple years in hopes that the engine would be ready, but we're still waiting.

p.s. - the oil companies have also expressed interest...dun, dun, dun...are they going to buy it and squash it??? who knows?

[Kymery]

my uncle has the patent on an engine that gets 100mpg, has gone through the testing phase and been put in a car and everything. he has already received a ton of interest from automakers, just needs a few more tweaks. they have even had a super bowl commercial ready for the last couple years in hopes that the engine would be ready, but we're still waiting.

p.s. - the oil companies have also expressed interest...dun, dun, dun...are they going to buy it and squash it??? who knows?

Yeah, thats what I would be afraid of! Buy the patent and then some how "loose" the technology.

Give your uncle props for me! I hope he can get er done:D

[horsephotographer]

I rest my case that the oil company's will be pulling as much money from the consumer in gas prices due to the fact that a gasoline engine will be gone soon due to go green and many other problems world wide...

How many of you saw this coming?

Get ready for a time like the 1928-1932...
This time gas and driving this force....
Trust me on this one my friends.....
You will see why are grandparents or for the younger crowd great grandparents saved every pennie....
History is funny like that and repeating it self.Yet reinventing the way it unfolds....:eek:

[Rose]

Yesterday I paid $4.49 for cheap Arco gas. The way it's going it should be $5.00 by the 4th of July.

[Rose]

I rest my case that the oil company's will be pulling as much money from the consumer in gas prices due to the fact that a gasoline engine will be gone soon due to go green and many other problems world wide...

How many of you saw this coming?

Get ready for a time like the 1928-1932...
This time gas and driving this force....
Trust me on this one my friends.....
You will see why are grandparents or for the younger crowd great grandparents saved every pennie....
History is funny like that and repeating it self.Yet reinventing the way it unfolds....:eek:

I sure do hope you are wrong. The kids of today could not handle those days. They are used to having everything they want. TV in every room, DVD player, their own phone and cell. Own computer. A car at 16 with parents paying for the insurance. Own credit cards with mommy and daddy paying the bills. They don't know how to save but do know how to spend.

[horsephotographer]

I sure do hope you are wrong. The kids of today could not handle those days. They are used to having everything they want. TV in every room, DVD player, their own phone and cell. Own computer. A car at 16 with parents paying for the insurance. Own credit cards with mommy and daddy paying the bills. They don't know how to save but do know how to spend.
Yes well God is funny like that he will prune the vine to produce a harvest...
This generation is just right for pruning my friend...
Remember what does not kill you will make you grow....

I love growth and it always brings about some amazing transformation's.....:cool:

[Kymery]

I sure do hope you are wrong. The kids of today could not handle those days. They are used to having everything they want. TV in every room, DVD player, their own phone and cell. Own computer. A car at 16 with parents paying for the insurance. Own credit cards with mommy and daddy paying the bills. They don't know how to save but do know how to spend.

I was just driving the car we bought my daughter for her 16th b-day, since she has a new car this one is now being handed to the newest 16yr old as of last Sunday. Little Honda Civic...nice to not watcfh the gas gage move like my diesel! phewww..but I also have put in aboutr $3000 to make it run good...everything but the tranny and motor have been replaced...sheesh.

I told him that he has to pay for gas...so get a job...or ride your bike to school as you always have. Or...no cell phone and no tv...gotta cut something at this rate! Insurance not bad $44 per month!!

[horsephotographer]

This looks like a great idea...
Anyone already Bike to work..????


Bike To Work Rally Friday, June 13, 2008 On Daley Plaza
With the price of gas almost $4 a gallon, aren't you tired of paying high gas prices coupled with the agonizing commute? Join fellow cyclists, former motorists, local media celebrities and the city of Chicago at the Bike to Work Rally on Friday, June 13 with a NEW! time beginning at 7:30 a.m. until 7:00 p.m. on Daley Plaza, 50 West Washington. At the rally, bikers will receive a FREE continental breakfast and t-shirt while supplies last and will be eligible throughout the day for great raffle prizes, including bikes, cycling gear, Bally Total Fitness memberships and more. Winners will be posted on-line at www.bikechicago.us. Once again, presenting sponsor Chase, will offer free valet bike parking at Daley Plaza from 7:30 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.

[TheMommie]

I sure do hope you are wrong. The kids of today could not handle those days. They are used to having everything they want. TV in every room, DVD player, their own phone and cell. Own computer. A car at 16 with parents paying for the insurance. Own credit cards with mommy and daddy paying the bills. They don't know how to save but do know how to spend.

Hey you've met my kids. hehehe

[Kymery]

Hey you've met my kids. hehehe

hahaha...thats what I am saying! guess it is my fault...the spoiling part. I was lucky to even get 5 minutes of phone time ...talking...corded, home phones...in my day due to the phone would be outrageous (per my parents).

[horsephotographer]

Hey you've met my kids. hehehe
Thats funny...:)

[horsephotographer]

Midwest floods may send gas up 15%

Soaring corn prices could increase the price of ethanol, driving up demand for oil and sending gas prices even higher. Some think it's time for Congress to act.


Hum Ya Think?????
Looks like any excuse will do 15% in one day come on guys....:eek:

[horsephotographer]

With the national average of gasoline at a record $4.07 a gallon, according to AAA, a 15% increase would translate into an additional 61 cents.
Ok Rose it should be over 5.00 by 4th of july....
Or sooner...:eek:
Anyone want to take odds on 8-9 dollars by christmas or more?

[Rose]

I may have to stop wearing skirts or dresses to work and biking it instead everyday.

[horsephotographer]

I may have to stop wearing skirts or dresses to work and biking it instead everyday.
Yes...
I know the feeling my friend great idea...
We are getting new bike tommorrow for fathers day Great ones....
Can't wait...:D

[horsephotographer]

Great...
This is coming....
100,000 well everything new starts out high?
Right?:)

According to Reinert, "A hydrogen powered fuel cell vehicle emits only water. Carbon monoxide, however, is produced when hydrogen is made from fossil fuels, as we currently do. If we intend to reduce carbon monoxide, we must go beyond tank to wheel efficiency and tackle well to tank efficiency as well. We need to consider production methods from a comprehensive viewpoint." Most people don't even think about how many emissions are created when producing the fuel, only how many emissions are being spewed out of the exhaust pipe.
http://www.carlist.com/autonews/2004/image/toyota_fchv.jpg Toyota's Fuel Cell Hydrogen Vehicle .
It may be years before there are standards and codes for production, storage and distribution of large amounts of hydrogen. The hope of all concerned is that the production of hydrogen can become more efficienct, with less emissions. In the mean time auto manufacturers are working on vehicles that can run on hydrogen. .

[horsephotographer]

Ok this could be a good idea....
Maybe not in L.A but still a great idea...
Ohio to allow 3-wheeled vehicles on roads
COLUMBUS, Ohio
Ohio is about to let three-wheeled electric vehicles on the road in these times of high gas prices and environmental concerns.

[Countrygurl]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome

[horsephotographer]

Ok...
What prices are you paying this week?
I drove out of the desert today and noticed :( most area's like corona and the IE are so much higher then here...
What is your average this week?
I paid 4.89 for premuim...:mad:

[TheMommie]

Ok...
What prices are you paying this week?
I drove out of the desert today and noticed :( most area's like corona and the IE are so much higher then here...
What is your average this week?
I paid 4.89 for premuim...:mad:

I only do regular, but here's what I've seen.

Friday $4.41 costco in Rancho Mirage
Mon Indio $4.59 personal car
Mon work car Bi-fuel CNG $2.75 a gallon
Today Victorville work car $4.51 (apperently CNG not working).
Today Son in Rialto $4.49

[horsephotographer]

I only do regular, but here's what I've seen.

Friday $4.41 costco in Rancho Mirage
Mon Indio $4.59 personal car
Mon work car Bi-fuel CNG $2.75 a gallon
Today Victorville work car $4.51 (apperently CNG not working).
Today Son in Rialto $4.49
Oh my..
I heard some are driving across the boarder to fill at 2.50 a gallon...
Ok how does Mexico rate to get 2.50 a gallon?

I know you drive alot mommie so I'm always interested to see what everyone is paying.Thanks for the up date much appreciated ...:)

[Countrygurl]

i have to put 91 in my car. my prices are hovering near $5. I think everyone knows that already. lol. I am close to trying out my first metro trip to/from work. It would require a short drive 1.5 miles to the subway station (yes I could also walk this but that would take 20 minutes) to hopefully find parking and a $5 day pass to take one subway and one bus each way. It would require a 12 minute walk from the drop off to my work and vice versa. The ride itself would vary around 40 minutes-ish.

My normal driving route is 10 miles each way and anywhere from 40-60 minutes each way, costing me just about $5 per day calculating in insurance, gas, etc. So as you can see, I am just about at break even point. Almost same time and almost same cost as public transport. but here is the kicker.. It's actually cheaper to take public transport at $17 per week pass as opposed to $25 per week in gas costs. (5 days driving per work week).

So Right now I am paying for the luxury of driving myself. If it gets much worse I will have to consider economical savings/time vs luxury as I really could use that savings per week that I was used to having until prices got so high.

I am curious what others have thought about their current situations of time/costs.

xxoo

[horsephotographer]

i have to put 91 in my car. my prices are hovering near $5. I think everyone knows that already. lol. I am close to trying out my first metro trip to/from work. It would require a short drive 1.5 miles to the subway station (yes I could also walk this but that would take 20 minutes) to hopefully find parking and a $5 day pass to take one subway and one bus each way. It would require a 12 minute walk from the drop off to my work and vice versa. The ride itself would vary around 40 minutes-ish.

My normal driving route is 10 miles each way and anywhere from 40-60 minutes each way, costing me just about $5 per day calculating in insurance, gas, etc. So as you can see, I am just about at break even point. Almost same time and almost same cost as public transport. but here is the kicker.. It's actually cheaper to take public transport at $17 per week pass as opposed to $25 per week in gas costs. (5 days driving per work week).

So Right now I am paying for the luxury of driving myself. If it gets much worse I will have to consider economical savings/time vs luxury as I really could use that savings per week that I was used to having until prices got so high.

I am curious what others have thought about their current situations of time/costs.

xxoo
Ok,
I so feel for everyone in a commuter status.
How are most going to make a change to compensate?
I don't know what to tell anyone commuting today?
This afternoon we had a real estate board meeting with many brokers in the industry regarding the decisions many will be make in moving closer to there work places.The cost must be very equal in discussions whether to move closer to work and pay a bit more in rent ( Or Mortgage), or purchase the high fuel cost they keep giving out each week...

I think this generation is in for a new day.
ooxxx:)
P.S I'm very thankful to work in my community.Unless someone pays me mileage and travel to leave the area to do my work I stay in my home office.

I have every empathy to all who comute...:(
Good question what do you do?

[TheMommie]

i have to put 91 in my car. my prices are hovering near $5. I think everyone knows that already. lol. I am close to trying out my first metro trip to/from work. It would require a short drive 1.5 miles to the subway station (yes I could also walk this but that would take 20 minutes) to hopefully find parking and a $5 day pass to take one subway and one bus each way. It would require a 12 minute walk from the drop off to my work and vice versa. The ride itself would vary around 40 minutes-ish.

My normal driving route is 10 miles each way and anywhere from 40-60 minutes each way, costing me just about $5 per day calculating in insurance, gas, etc. So as you can see, I am just about at break even point. Almost same time and almost same cost as public transport. but here is the kicker.. It's actually cheaper to take public transport at $17 per week pass as opposed to $25 per week in gas costs. (5 days driving per work week).

So Right now I am paying for the luxury of driving myself. If it gets much worse I will have to consider economical savings/time vs luxury as I really could use that savings per week that I was used to having until prices got so high.

I am curious what others have thought about their current situations of time/costs.

xxoo


My hubby has us using our Biz Amex card from Costco, which after having spent the initial 16 thousand, bumped us up to a 5 percent return on gas purchases, at most gas stations. The regular costco Amex card gives you 2 percent.

So every little bit helps. As long as I dont go to one of those stations where they charge more if you use a credit card. Which I thought was illegal in CA. Hubby reserching this for me.

[Countrygurl]

As long as I dont go to one of those stations where they charge more if you use a credit card. Which I thought was illegal in CA.

technically it goes against the shop owners credit card agreement however if they claim the cash price is a discount rather than the credit being more, that is a loop hole they seem to get away with. it would take the credit card companies to fight this, doubt they will.

[horsephotographer]

My hubby has us using our Biz Amex card from Costco, which after having spent the initial 16 thousand, bumped us up to a 5 percent return on gas purchases, at most gas stations. The regular costco Amex card gives you 2 percent.

So every little bit helps. As long as I dont go to one of those stations where they charge more if you use a credit card. Which I thought was illegal in CA. Hubby reserching this for me.
That is so smart....

[TheMommie]

technically it goes against the shop owners credit card agreement however if they claim the cash price is a discount rather than the credit being more, that is a loop hole they seem to get away with. it would take the credit card companies to fight this, doubt they will.

Hey thats what he just told me, apperently you need to complain to your credit card company and they will follow up on it.

I think I may just do that and see if it helps.
Especially at one of those where they do it so sneakly (sp). So many people these days can only survive by using credit cards to carry them through the rough spots.

Apperently a law suit against the "Thrifty" gas stations on this issue has prompted their change to Arcos as this rule does not apply to ATM payments.

[Countrygurl]

apperently you need to complain to your credit card company and they will follow up on it.

key words "they will follow up on it" that is our wishful thinking. I hope they do though!

[TheMommie]

key words "they will follow up on it" that is our wishful thinking. I hope they do though!


Well you know what they say the squeaky wheel gets the grease. I'll let you now if it works. :eek:

[Countrygurl]

let's all squeak then. report to mastercard and visa any gas station that charges more for credit. the more that squeak the better. I am in this with you guys.

does anyone know how to contact the general visa / mc companies or do we have to go individually? I searched but didnt find a general one.

[TheMommie]

let's all squeak then. report to mastercard and visa any gas station that charges more for credit. the more that squeak the better. I am in this with you guys.

does anyone know how to contact the general visa / mc companies or do we have to go individually? I searched but didnt find a general one.

My hubby has a link as soon as I get it from him I will post it.

This is a story out of Palm Springs with great links.

http://www.cbstv2.com/Global/story.asp?s=8138167


Just saw this on Yahoo's main page. About some gas stations banning credit cards.
http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/autos_content_landing_pages/587/credit-card-fees-some-gas-stations-say-no-

[horsephotographer]

My hubby has a link as soon as I get it from him I will post it.

This is a story out of Palm Springs with great links.

http://www.cbstv2.com/Global/story.asp?s=8138167


Just saw this on Yahoo's main page. About some gas stations banning credit cards.
http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/autos_content_landing_pages/587/credit-card-fees-some-gas-stations-say-no-

Very good info to know mommie.....

[Rose]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome

Countrygurl....are you saying that you can get Asperger Syndrome from gasoline?

[Rose]

http://www.knbc.com/news/16666924/detail.html?subid=10101581

Gasoline being stolen in the Coachella Valley.

[sunkisses]

Or, maybe wear a shorter skirt and flash a little leg...you'll get a ride that way! ;)


I may have to stop wearing skirts or dresses to work and biking it instead everyday.

[Rose]

Or, maybe wear a shorter skirt and flash a little leg...you'll get a ride that way! ;)


On Thursday I will be 45 and I think my days of wearing shorts skirts are going to be over. :mad: :eek:

[Rose]

Here is a picture of me at work taken about 4 years ago. I didn't get any free rides! :rolleyes:

[Kymery]

Here is a picture of me at work taken about 4 years ago. I didn't get any free rides! :rolleyes:

Awe man...you know why?? Cuz you intimidated them!!!:D

[Rose]

Awe man...you know why?? Cuz you intimidated them!!!:D

I wish!!! :rolleyes:

[horsephotographer]

Here is a picture of me at work taken about 4 years ago. I didn't get any free rides! :rolleyes:
I know after meeting at stagecoach you got those legs from dancing....
:)

[Thom]

Here is a picture of me at work taken about 4 years ago. I didn't get any free rides! :rolleyes:

Oh Young Lady You can get a ride in my Golf Cart at 2009 stagecoach

[horsephotographer]

Oh Young Lady You can get a ride in my Golf Cart at 2009 stagecoach
Oh what a sweet man...
I'm sure Rose will love that....:D

[Rose]

Oh Young Lady You can get a ride in my Golf Cart at 2009 stagecoach


Thom, I will take you up on that offer!!! THANKS. and double thank you for calling me a young lady. :D

[horsephotographer]

Awww so sweet everyone is always so kind and helpful...:)

[Rose]

Awww so sweet everyone is always so kind and helpful...:)


The boy scouts will be walking me across the street soon. :eek: :rolleyes:

[Countrygurl]

It cost me $60 to fill up my tank on saturday.

[horsephotographer]

60$ is a deal...
I put in 60 and barley get a half a tank or a little over?
:eek:
See how they make us feel now 4.29 is cheap?:mad:

[TheMommie]

Here are my observations in the last few days.

Sunday $4.49 in Rialto
Yesterday $4.89 in Borrego Springs
Today $4.45 in Mecca

I am just thankful I have a company car.

[Kymery]

I found Diesel for $4.73 in Norco! whoo hoo!

[horsephotographer]

Here are my observations in the last few days.

Sunday $4.49 in Rialto
Yesterday $4.89 in Borrego Springs
Today $4.45 in Mecca

I am just thankful I have a company car.
You are so blessed....
Thanks for the updates:)

[TheMommie]

I found Diesel for $4.73 in Norco! whoo hoo!

Shucks sorry, I forget. I only use gas, I'll start paying attention to Diesel, as well. :)

[Rose]

The business next door to where I work own a van for pick-ups and deliveries. I guess this past weekend sombody punctured a whole in the gas tank and stole their gasoline.

[Kymery]

Shucks sorry, I forget. I only use gas, I'll start paying attention to Diesel, as well. :)

No prob!! At least Diesel is going down! Dang, it used to be the CHEAP fuel! I used to be in the trucking industry, don't know how they survive now...except everything we buy is going up too! Hate the trickle effect.

[Kymery]

The business next door to where I work own a van for pick-ups and deliveries. I guess this past weekend sombody punctured a whole in the gas tank and stole their gasoline.

This seems to be a trend lately...may I suggest to everyone...buy a locking gas cap. Jerks go through neighborhoods and sifen gas at night..so beware!!!

[TheMommie]

No prob!! At least Diesel is going down! Dang, it used to be the CHEAP fuel! I used to be in the trucking industry, don't know how they survive now...except everything we buy is going up too! Hate the trickle effect.


My heart goes out to truckers right now.

I know the trickle effect is what gets us all. They're saying food prices will go up due to the floods in the midwest. Feed will cost more so meats will be higher.


I saw on TV a lil teaser for a news story about gas theft in the Coachella valley. I may have to start closing my gate.

[Kymery]

My heart goes out to truckers right now.

I know the trickle effect is what gets us all. They're saying food prices will go up due to the floods in the midwest. Feed will cost more so meats will be higher.


I saw on TV a lil teaser for a news story about gas theft in the Coachella valley. I may have to start closing my gate.

Yeah, I saw on the news they had video of this guy who pulls up to a gas station, with a huge enclosed tow trailer, he parks right on top of where they add the fuel from the tankers to the underground tanks, and he apparently has a hole in the floor of his trailer and the guys in side, sifen gas out of the underground tanks! Talk about guts!

[scarr]

This guy didn't mess around when he needed extra gas money. He got the job done! :eek:

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local&id=6228406

[horsephotographer]

Wow...
Crazy is it not....

[Kymery]

Here's a story about a little local tavern, about 10 houses away from me. This place has been robbed several times, and once the ATM machine stolen.

Sad to see people being stupid and also even sadder to see the times changing...loosing all the good stuff. This bar doesn't look like much, but sure a lot of fun...and like the story says, it does stick out like a sore thumb with all the new huge homes and schools built around it.


http://www.pe.com/localnews/eastvale/stories/PE_News_Local_H_alscorner27.3ee2d91.html

[scarr]

Here's a story about a little local tavern, about 10 houses away from me. This place has been robbed several times, and once the ATM machine stolen.

Sad to see people being stupid and also even sadder to see the times changing...loosing all the good stuff. This bar doesn't look like much, but sure a lot of fun...and like the story says, it does stick out like a sore thumb with all the new huge homes and schools built around it.


http://www.pe.com/localnews/eastvale/stories/PE_News_Local_H_alscorner27.3ee2d91.html

Poor Al :( He looks pretty sad.
Well at least you don't have far to go to get a drink.

[Kymery]

Poor Al :( He looks pretty sad.
Well at least you don't have far to go to get a drink.

Yep, I can roll my arse home!! hehehe..sure gonna miss that place:(

[TheMommie]

Yep, I can roll my arse home!! hehehe..sure gonna miss that place:(

Hey maybe we can have a get together there.

[PrncessJess22]

Here's a story about a little local tavern, about 10 houses away from me. This place has been robbed several times, and once the ATM machine stolen.

Sad to see people being stupid and also even sadder to see the times changing...loosing all the good stuff. This bar doesn't look like much, but sure a lot of fun...and like the story says, it does stick out like a sore thumb with all the new huge homes and schools built around it.


http://www.pe.com/localnews/eastvale/stories/PE_News_Local_H_alscorner27.3ee2d91.html





Kymery, I grew up right down the road from this place! Al's has been through *hell and high water*! It is sad to see it go! Thank you for posting the article! Next time I am in the area, I'll know why it won't be there :(

[Kymery]

PJ22, then you know all about it! Poor building is in dissaray, they towed the old school bus, now just a few campers, tractors left, just a dump spot for him.

Doug and I went to Al's last night after Buffalo Wild Wings (yuck, had the worst tasting parmesian garlic wings) and it was pretty packed!. Mainly construction workers, local Eastvale residents...some friends were on a girls night now, saw a couple married men alone there to, doing the guys night out, people just pop in on their way home, say hi to everyone and check out.



But we had fun. BUT...that kareoke dude...has GOT TO GO! the worst one I have heard, horrible segway music. And then this dude would not stop singing the beatles. ughhhh ALMOST made me get up there and sing just to shut him up! hehehehe

[Countrygurl]

Today, a barrel of oil spiked at $143.52, a (broken) record, once again. That comes at a time when the Los Angeles area has been seeing a two-week plateau in gas prices around $4.60. AAA reports gas in Los Angeles averages at $4.602, but LosAngelesGasPrices.com has gas tipping down towards $4.57.

However, with oil prices spiking as they are, the change in gas prices will be seen in weeks to come. It takes three to six weeks to see the effect of oil prices at the pump. Any price increase or decrease on any given day is a product of that timeline. ouch.

[scarr]

BUT...that kareoke dude...has GOT TO GO! the worst one I have heard, horrible segway music. And then this dude would not stop singing the beatles. ughhhh ALMOST made me get up there and sing just to shut him up! hehehehe

My local bar has some karaoke singers that are so bad I have to cover my ears.

And there is another local bar nearby where this one guy constantly plays bad rap music on the jukebox.

Gas is $4.43 at Arco at 91 & Kraemer in Anaheim.

[TheMommie]

Hi all.

$4.49 in Moreno Valley today.

[Kymery]

$4.39 reg unleaded in Norco!

[GeorgeStraitfan1]

4.37 @ Arco

[Countrygurl]

paid $4.99. grrrrr. i only put in $20 because I was so irritated.

[TheMommie]

On my way to Torrence I'll let you guys know what I see out there.

[IheartMillerLite]

You're coming to my town??? It's like $4.67 by me!

[TheMommie]

You're coming to my town??? It's like $4.67 by me!


Yep IHML :) I was there until like 3pm. Did some inspections on Sepulveda. Had lunch at Sizzler.

Then I went to the Saturn dealer went to look at the Aura hybrid. Looked great, gotta do some comparisons.

I saw gas ranging from $4.41 to $4.54 all for regular.

[IheartMillerLite]

You were totally in my neck of the woods. In fact, I bought my Saturn there. Ha! For some reason the Thrifty gas by my house is 4.67. Makes no sense! I paid 4.55 the other day at Shell by my house. Random!

[GeorgeStraitfan1]

paid $4.99. grrrrr. i only put in $20 because I was so irritated.

ohhhh, i've been there once or twice!:eek: (only putting 20 in)

[scarr]

http://www.cagle.com/working/080630/thompson.jpg

[Rose]

Sex For Gas
Police: Kentucky john paid prostitute with $100 fuel card
JULY 2--A Kentucky woman is facing prostitution charges for allegedly trading sex for gasoline. Angela Eversole, 34, was nabbed last weekend during a police stakeout at a Days Inn, where she allegedly trysted with customer Kenneth Nowak. According to court records, Nowak admitted paying for Eversole's services, in part, with a $100 Speedway gas card. Eversole was hit with a prostitution rap and also charged with doing business without an occupational license. Nowak was charged with promoting prostitution. Eversole and Nowak are pictured below in mug shots snapped following their June 27 arrests. A local prosecutor noted that it was sad to see someone selling their body for gas, in this case about 25 gallons worth. (3 pages)

[Kymery]

Darn, guess I better tell the hubby that him and I gotta work out another deal, cuz I ain't going to jail!

[Countrygurl]

filled up today at $4.77 per gallon

[Rose]

4.49 per gallon today and just one day shy of the 4th. So when will the 5.00 per gallon happen? Before Labor Day?

[scarr]

4.49 per gallon today and just one day shy of the 4th. So when will the 5.00 per gallon happen? Before Labor Day?

It's down to $4.43 here in Anaheim! It only cost me $72 to fillup?

[scarr]

"T. Boone Pickens has launched an energy plan and social-networking campaign that calls for replacing Middle Eastern oil with Midwestern wind. (http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-9985905-54.html) The Pickens Plan would exploit the country's "wind corridor" from the Canadian border to West Texas to produce 20 percent of the country's electricity (http://www.pickensplan.com/theplan) and provide an economic revival for rural America. Transmission lines would be built to transport the power where the demand is and natural gas, now used to fuel power plants, would instead be used as a transportation fuel, which burns cleaner than gasoline and is domestic. Pickens proposed that the private sector finance the investment, which would result in a one-third reduction, equal to $230 billion, in the U.S.' yearly payments to foreign countries. Pickens has already invested heavily in wind, notably a planned 4,000-megawatt wind farm (http://www.reporternews.com/news/2008/jul/02/pickens-shows-off-sweetwater-turbines) in his native Texas. "We've got to get renewable into the mix. The problem for this country is that we're paying $700 billion — you heard that — $700 billion a year," Pickens says. "We can't afford that. In 10 years we'll be broke if we continue that.""

[TheMommie]

Mon and Tuesday $4.89 in Idylwild $4.59 in Banning

Yesterday 4.33 San Bernardino Sam's Club $4.38 at one in Rancho Mirage. Pilot $4.35 North Palm Springs & $4.45 shell at Highland Springs in Banning.

Went down some thank goodness.

[Kymery]

There was a report about Boone on history i think tonight!! hmmm

[scarr]

Is it Saturday yet? My Red Cup is getting lonely!

I bet your red cup is all dried out and brittle by now! :rolleyes:

[hillbillyRockstar]

I hope the Pickens Plan comes to life.

It might be too smart a plan for politicians to understand though.

I'm all for it.

[scarr]

Yet another plan:

"The company Sustainable Power Corp. claims to have created a form of bio-crude oil from agricultural refuse. They use agro-waste from cracked soy beans, rice and cotton seed hulls, grain sorghum, milo, and jatropha and turn it into bio-crude oil (http://www.hcnonline.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19786825&BRD=1574&PAG=461&dept_id=639295&rfi=6) . This crude can then be further refined into everything from gasoline to jet fuel and just about every petrochemical in between. The CEO is quoted: 'Our biggest problem is that we are too good to be true. We can literally replace every gallon of gasoline, diesel and jet fuel in the United States using just 12 percent of the waste byproducts in the country.' They also claim that their fuel burns to near 100 percent efficiency." The article doesn't mention what price the "vetrolium" would command in today's market or going forward, except to report the CEO's promise "to one day sell his gasoline for $1 less than the pump price for regular fuel, no matter what the cost. 'Even if it's $2 per gallon, I'll sell mine for $1,"' he said."

[scarr]

Down to $3.99, '''YAY

[horsephotographer]

No scarr tell me it is not so....:eek:
They have sucked us into thinking that is cheap..
Crap i was just loading tax receipts from a lost file( My data was lost after a crash) .:mad:
Gas price's in 2005 1.89 a gallon....That is what it should be for God's sake....

[scarr]

They should sell gas at the 99¢ Only Stores!

[Kbug&Shanrock]

They should sell gas at the 99¢ Only Stores!


I like the way you think!!

[scarr]

People are getting fined for bringing too much fuel back from Mexico. The confiscate your extra tanks and charge you 70% of what you paid. You can fill up the normal tanks in your vehicle, tho.

[horsephotographer]

They should sell gas at the 99¢ Only Stores!
SCARR For President.....2008:D

[horsephotographer]

http://static.flickr.com/37/97918755_8b88ba3a02_m.jpg (http://www.ziitrend.com/predict/on/crude_oil_price_on_june_13__2008_2008-06-13/photos)




Walk more and have enough for Stagecoach 2009 gold circle tickets...
Just 6 fill up's on my tank...That is crazy.......

National Stay at home week coming up....

[scarr]

SCARR For President.....2008:D

Thanx sweetie! I am running for City Council.

[horsephotographer]

:D If I lived in your area you would have my vote my friend....

[scarr]

http://video.popularmechanics.com/services/link/bcpid1214137061/bctid1233395616
http://video.popularmechanics.com/services/link/bcpid1214137061/bctid1233395616

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4224763.html?series=37http://video.popularmechanics.com/services/link/bcpid1214137061/bctid1233395616

[scarr]

Gas is $1.95 near me now and there is a boarded up Dodge Dealer that still has the signs "Buy a Dodge and get gas for only $2.99" :D

~ You just never know! :eek:

[festivalfan]

Gas is $1.95 near me now and there is a boarded up Dodge Dealer that still has the signs "Buy a Dodge and get gas for only $2.99" :D

~ You just never know! :eek:

scarr.. take a picture of that, stick it in a time capsule...will be interesting to look at years from now

[Countrygurl]

1.99 near me.. though I am waiting for premium to fall to 1.99.

[wagonwheelfestival]

Just saw gas at Arco in Redlands for $1.89... How crazy, It cost me about $35.00 to fill up today, thats nothin, used to be about $70.00 Lovin it!

[TheMommie]

$1.89 at the Arco in Beaumont Highland Springs and Ramsy
$1.93 at Casino Morongo.

Lots of RVs on the road these last 2 days.

[Kymery]

I just paid $2.39 for Diesel...what ever happened to Diesel being cheaper than regular? It was in 2002!

[scarr]

scarr.. take a picture of that, stick it in a time capsule...will be interesting to look at years from now

Good idea Festival!
My gas station was down to $1.89 when I left work. Hopefully it will be lower when I fill up tonite. :D

[witchylde13]

1.99 near me.. though I am waiting for premium to fall to 1.99.

Hey, I live in LA, where $1.99???

[IheartMillerLite]

It was 1.97 at Arco in Hawthorne and 1.99 at 76 this morning. Crazy!!

[witchylde13]

The cheapest I've seen in our area so far is $2.13, which is still pretty good. Only 2 more post to go to make senior!!

[abra]

$2.05 at chevron here in the OC

[Shodyjean]

$1.85 @Costco Los Alamitos. $1.89 Quartzsite Az on Wednesday.

[hodgee5]

paid 1.84 at sams club this morning

[scarr]

$2.05 at chevron here in the OC

You live down in the ritzy area! :D
It's $1.83 up here.

[Kymery]

$1.73 at Ralphs if u use your Ralphs card.

[festivalfan]

paid 1.84 at sams club this morning

I like getting gas at Sam's Club...one way in, one way out,,,,not like at the stupid Arco near me... people come and go in every direction, the nozzles don't stretch across their Hummers so the have to back up and turn around. Then dummies park their car at one of the pumps to go in and pay, and they decide to have happy hour in the store, while 5 people are in line... so crazy!

[horsephotographer]

1.68
Buy in the east side of indio....:D

[scarr]

$1.65 near me.

Here is the old Dodge Dealer. :D

[heavenlymoon76]

$1.70 in 29Palms. A bit cheaper if you purchase gas on base.

[Kymery]

$2.25 diesel in Norco!!

[wagonwheelfestival]

$1.62 in Redlands... Damn its gettin cheap. they say cheapest its been in 5 years...

[festivalfan]

Scarr... a few days ago I told my son about that dealer you posted about. He knew exactly which one you were referring to....he drives by it everyday to work. He's thinking it won't be there much longer. Thaks for posting the pics.. what a sign of the times....the gas prices not too long ago, and the demise of a car dealership.. and soon the demise of the auto maker...good catch of history...

[Kymery]

Norco City is putting in over 1 mill to the local dealers to help them out cuz they bring in over a mill in revenue in taxes each year! Go Norco!!~

[Rose]

Right now I'm sooooo mad at the auto industry and it's practices. Some of the them need to go out of business. My best friends mom...79 just purchased a car all buy herself for the first time and COMPLETELY got taken to the cleaners. A 17K car turned into 27K. They sold her a lo-jack system for $2500.00 bucks. I used to sell lo-jack so I called them and their current suggested retail price installed is $995.00. They sold her every add on possible to mankind at crazy prices. I hope they can't sleep at night. P.S. Her mom is a retired 35 year factory ford employee from Detroit. I can't believe they would do that to their own. :mad:

[Kymery]

Right now I'm sooooo mad at the auto industry and it's practices. Some of the them need to go out of business. My best friends mom...79 just purchased a car all buy herself for the first time and COMPLETELY got taken to the cleaners. A 17K car turned into 27K. They sold her a lo-jack system for $2500.00 bucks. I used to sell lo-jack so I called them and their current suggested retail price installed is $995.00. They sold her every add on possible to mankind at crazy prices. I hope they can't sleep at night. P.S. Her mom is a retired 35 year factory ford employee from Detroit. I can't believe they would do that to their own. :mad:

I believe you can get some legal help for her on that! that is against the law!

[abra]

worked in the car business for 10 years. it's a toilet. no conscience. they'd sell a $75 paint sealant package for $500. i'm so sorry that happened to her. never buy a car without someone there that knows what they're doing.

[wagonwheelfestival]

Wow, how messed up is that. Car dealers are scum of the earth... seriously, if you don't know what you are doing they will take you to the cleaners like you said. B.T.W. Gas at Arco in Redlands, now $1.59... whoo hoo... lowest its been in 5 or 6 years I think... Nice