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sorensonszoo
05-03-2008, 01:11 PM
Was anyone else witness to this "star's" awful behavior at Stagecoach? She got up there and told off the concert promoters because the VIP seats were so empty that she couldn't see anyone's eyeballs. I, for one, didn't pay for general admission so I could here her complain about the empty VIP seats. If I could have afforded it, I would have bought VIP seats and would have been close enough to see her eyeballs!!!

hillbillyRockstar
05-03-2008, 08:01 PM
Was anyone else witness to this "star's" awful behavior at Stagecoach? She got up there and told off the concert promoters because the VIP seats were so empty that she couldn't see anyone's eyeballs. I, for one, didn't pay for general admission so I could here her complain about the empty VIP seats. If I could have afforded it, I would have bought VIP seats and would have been close enough to see her eyeballs!!!

Well, as I've said before here, we only have the Eagles to thank for this. They are the losers who bought up all the reserved seats to sell for double the price and have it be all empty for the artists and bands that came before them.

I like their music, but hate their business. It is also part the fault of the promoters to allow this to happen. So, she has a point, but I wouldn't have voiced it like she did. She could have waited.

carol7lynn
05-04-2008, 01:24 PM
I was there and she behaved very badly. :( She could have made her point without reverting to vulgarity that's for sure. :confused: But what ticked me off was the fact that I paid $800 for my front row seat and did not appreciate the fact that she encouraged people who only paid $100-$195 for their seats to come and sit beside me in the front row cigarettes and drink in hand shouting "You, go girl." GAWD!:confused:

The seats were reserved not empty. Most of our group chose to stay in the ILAA party tent because it was almost 90 degrees out and they didn't frankly want to see some of the opening acts and some attendees could not get to the show until after 6:00 P.M. By the time the Eagles came on, every seat was filled and security had a hard time getting some of Shelby's unwelcomed guests to go back to their original seats delaying the Eagles in the process.

There was one young woman, who stood by me at the stage railing most of the night who was able to remain in the second row after security booted her out of the first row. She kept telling the security guard she lost her ticket. She didn't even have a reserved seat ticket by the looks of her.

Others were more crafty. They used their GoldCircle lanyards (for Sat/Sun) to bluff there way into empty GoldCircle Friday seats. I could tell they were interlopers because they didn't have an Eagles' lanyard and an ILAA Goody-bag like the rest of us.

Long story short, these people probably would have moved up anyway but Shelby Lynne paved the their way, so to say. Thanks Shelby:eek: for making our night more complicated than it needed to be.

Carol-Lynn
SoCalGalN:cool: ow

5143dog
05-05-2008, 08:57 AM
I was at Shelby's performance with my 12 year old grand daughter. Needless, to say we left ASAP but I still had some explaining to do about her vulgar, anger filled "performance." The only thing I agreed with her about was her statement that she would never again perform at Stagecoach. AMEN! Lynne and the promoters of Stagecoach owe its paying customers an apology.

Cooter
05-05-2008, 09:48 AM
why does the promoter have to apologize for an artist's attitude?

koalababy
05-05-2008, 09:59 AM
I so agree - too bad there isn't a way we could avoid her anywhereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee she might want to perform - her attitude was even worse then the Wreckers at Staples a few years back - uncalled for - absolutely uncalled for!!!! The tickets were sold - too bad she isn't good enough for people to want to get there early enough to see her - we walked around after her tirade - who the heck is she?????????~smile~pfffffffft on her!!!!!!!!!!

tgcali
05-05-2008, 01:26 PM
I had my 11 year old daughter with me and I was outraged. Karma is a B****, with any luck Ms. Shelby is just beginning the end of her career. I will never spend money on someone with that kind of attitude.

5143dog
05-05-2008, 01:27 PM
why does the promoter have to apologize for an artist's attitude?

The promoters should have know her schtick before they hired her. If not, they didn't do their due diligence. Making this entire affair even worse is that Shelby lives in Rancho Mirage so she should be fully aware of the setup at Stagecoach (festival vs. reserved seating).

Ajax
05-05-2008, 01:47 PM
I was there and she behaved very badly. :( She could have made her point without reverting to vulgarity that's for sure. :confused: But what ticked me off was the fact that I paid $800 for my front row seat and did not appreciate the fact that she encouraged people who only paid $100-$195 for their seats to come and sit beside me in the front row cigarettes and drink in hand shouting "You, go girl." GAWD!:confused:


Carol-Lynn
SoCalGalN:cool: ow

I missed her behavior but on the same subject something must be done about the seating and the way they just let almost anyone in. I paid a lot of money for my reserved seats there were a lot of people in there with no lanyard, wristband or tickets. The security staff didn't quite know who went were and it was really annoying and unfair that all those people that forked over the extra cash for better seats an "VIP" access( what a joke!).

heavenlymoon76
05-05-2008, 02:52 PM
WOW, I didn't go this year, but it sounds like you all had the same problem we did last year with security into the VIP/Gold Circle Area. Last year, we had Gold Circle seats and every time we got up to use the restroom, we had to come back to people with no VIP wristbands/Gold Circle lanyards in our seats. Same problems, different year :rolleyes: Maybe next year security can get the memo of who should be where--Gold Circle lanyard--YES, VIP bracelet--YES, anything else--NO, that's not hard :rolleyes:

sunkisses
05-05-2008, 03:03 PM
People in the "cheap seats" are just as deserving as those that spend outrageous sums. I can assure you that the people in the reserved seats were drinking just like everyone else there. Your attitude is very elitist and doesn't speak well of your manners, sorry!





I was there and she behaved very badly. :( She could have made her point without reverting to vulgarity that's for sure. :confused: But what ticked me off was the fact that I paid $800 for my front row seat and did not appreciate the fact that she encouraged people who only paid $100-$195 for their seats to come and sit beside me in the front row cigarettes and drink in hand shouting "You, go girl." GAWD!:confused:

The seats were reserved not empty. Most of our group chose to stay in the ILAA party tent because it was almost 90 degrees out and they didn't frankly want to see some of the opening acts and some attendees could not get to the show until after 6:00 P.M. By the time the Eagles came on, every seat was filled and security had a hard time getting some of Shelby's unwelcomed guests to go back to their original seats delaying the Eagles in the process.

There was one young woman, who stood by me at the stage railing most of the night who was able to remain in the second row after security booted her out of the first row. She kept telling the security guard she lost her ticket. She didn't even have a reserved seat ticket by the looks of her.

Others were more crafty. They used their GoldCircle lanyards (for Sat/Sun) to bluff there way into empty GoldCircle Friday seats. I could tell they were interlopers because they didn't have an Eagles' lanyard and an ILAA Goody-bag like the rest of us.

Long story short, these people probably would have moved up anyway but Shelby Lynne paved the their way, so to say. Thanks Shelby:eek: for making our night more complicated than it needed to be.

Carol-Lynn
SoCalGalN:cool: ow

tgcali
05-05-2008, 03:16 PM
People in the "cheap seats" are just as deserving as those that spend outrageous sums. I can assure you that the people in the reserved seats were drinking just like everyone else there. Your attitude is very elitist and doesn't speak well of your manners, sorry!

I'm just going to second what Sunkisses said, because I don't trust myself to respond otherwise. Just because I don't choose to spend the money on front row center seats doesn't mean I'm not capable of doing so and has absolutely nothing to do with my caliber or character.

heavenlymoon76
05-05-2008, 03:26 PM
Hmmm, I didn't get the "I'm better than you because I spent more money on my tickets" vibe from Carolynn's post. I think she was just saying that she was upset because someone who paid $100-$195 got to sit in the seats that she had to fork out $800 for. I'd be upset too! JMHO.

KAREN N ROBBIE
05-05-2008, 04:05 PM
WELL, WHAT DO YA'LL THINK OF SOMEONE SITTING IN A SCOOTER BEHIND SEVERAL CHAIRS (THINKING THAT WAY I WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE SOMEWHAT) AND A 6'5" GUY IN A COWBOY HAT INCHED HIS WAY UP AND STOOD IN FRONT OF ME? NOW THAT IS WHAT I CONSIDER "LOW CLASS"

Lizzy
05-05-2008, 07:58 PM
I think her behavior was vulgar!!! I don't care that there was no one in reserved section, the people in general admission are as deserving as reserved section and when you think about it and think about how much money they make off of everyone in general admission, with ticket prices, camping, beer, fees, etc... Everyone deserves a good show. She should have shut her mouth she got paid!!! Goldenvoice should fine her for her foul mouth. This is a family event. If we wanted this behavior we could have went to a rap concert with our kids! I didn't take mine but I am sure that everyone with a child was offended.

SACRAMENTO!!!
05-05-2008, 08:10 PM
WELL, WHAT DO YA'LL THINK OF SOMEONE SITTING IN A SCOOTER BEHIND SEVERAL CHAIRS (THINKING THAT WAY I WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE SOMEWHAT) AND A 6'5" GUY IN A COWBOY HAT INCHED HIS WAY UP AND STOOD IN FRONT OF ME? NOW THAT IS WHAT I CONSIDER "LOW CLASS"

You in VIP? I don't understand how someone's height has anything to do with it. They paid the same as everyone else in GA or VIP and have just the same right to stand up and enjoy the music.

Rose
05-05-2008, 08:14 PM
I'm sure glad I missed Shelby Lynne from what you are all saying. That's just not right. Only revenge we have is to not purchase her music or go see her shows. I'll stick by your words and do just that.

Lizzy
05-05-2008, 08:21 PM
She'll never get anywhere by acting like a diva.

sunkisses
05-05-2008, 09:08 PM
I've emailed a complaint about Shelby Lynne. Bet they get a lot of requests for refunds. When you look up white trash in the dictionary, her picture is there! I was appalled and disgusted. Someone should have been on stage and told her to stop that ridiculousness ASAP!

carol7lynn
05-06-2008, 07:03 AM
The woman said she sitting in handicapped scooter and some doofus stood in front of her like she wasn't even there. Only an idiot would do that and there sure were a lot of them there.

You can call me an elitist, snob or whatever you want to. People who have no point, generally resort to name-calling to justify the unjustifiable. In essence, they have no point. I paid $800 for my seat and they didn't. That's the point.

Carol-lynn
SoCalGalNow:)

sunkisses
05-06-2008, 07:09 AM
You in VIP? I don't understand how someone's height has anything to do with it. They paid the same as everyone else in GA or VIP and have just the same right to stand up and enjoy the music.
Unless she can't stand....then the people around her should have been more considerate. Our society is so shallow...it's always about me, who cares about the other guy. How very sad indeed!

Cooter
05-06-2008, 07:42 AM
there was a raised platform for guests in wheelchairs, etc.

Cooter
05-06-2008, 07:44 AM
I've emailed a complaint about Shelby Lynne. Bet they get a lot of requests for refunds.

do you seriously think someone deserves a refund because of how one performer out of the whole weekend acted??? give me a break.

MindyK.
05-06-2008, 10:05 AM
I don’t know what is more offensive to me at this point, Shelby Lynn’s tirade because she wanted to be able to see her fans or Carol7Lynn’s snotty attitude towards other concert goers. Personally I find neither attitude acceptable, but at least I can see where Shelby’s came from. Carol’s attitude is just rude.

Kymery
05-06-2008, 10:32 AM
I don’t know what is more offensive to me at this point, Shelby Lynn’s tirade because she wanted to be able to see her fans or Carol7Lynn’s snotty attitude towards other concert goers. Personally I find neither attitude acceptable, but at least I can see where Shelby’s came from. Carol’s attitude is just rude.

She has a rightfull attitude, those were handicapped people and the guy took advantage of standing in front of them. I had the same issue with the front row in front of me, just stood like zombies, and mom let them (she was up in gold circle) she told her daughters to stand up AND NO ONE IN FRONT OF THEM!!

I agree with her and I WOULD NEVER TAKE ADAVANTAGE of empty seats that someone was just up eating, enjoying other bands (ones that did not cuss) and USE their tickets when they want. Sheesh there ARE three stages to enjoy, did you really expect them to sit there the whole time?

There were even people in our "comped" Eagle tickets we were handed that night when they started and they had to get booted! People were grabbing others seats and people would tell them they were reserved, they just said, OH Well, I will move later then RUDE

Carol is not cussing in front of thousands of people, children, religions etc!! THAT is unacceptable....not a person who could not see. I told my husband as we sat that IF i had an isle seat or a handicapped spot I would be ticked to no end, how rude of those people to stand there. They were cleared out a couple times but security told us they "couldnt do anything about it"

Kymery
05-06-2008, 10:33 AM
there was a raised platform for guests in wheelchairs, etc.

Yeah, that fit maybe 10 wheelchairs as well as their "companions"

Lizzy
05-06-2008, 12:11 PM
at one point i felt like she was egging the crowd on, I told my husband here is another Fred Durst, trying to make it like woodstock 2000, I was waiting for some drunks to get riled up and destructive after her tirade about "you deserve better than this"..

Lizzy
05-06-2008, 12:15 PM
there was a raised platform for guests in wheelchairs, etc.

there was no way they would have been able to have sat every disabled, scooter bound, people on crutches in those 2 platforms, those who were there had their guests with them. Some of these people do don't have a choice about their situation and can't stand up during a whole performance, let alone three days worth.

MindyK.
05-06-2008, 01:31 PM
The only difference between Shelby’s comments and the ones listed below are the how they are worded. Granted the blow post doesn’t contain F Bombs, but to me it’s more offensive!


“…she encouraged people who only paid $100-$195 for their seats to come and sit beside me in the front row cigarettes and drink in hand shouting ‘You, go girl.’

“she didn’t even have a reserved seat ticket by the looks of her”

tgcali
05-06-2008, 06:18 PM
The only difference between Shelby’s comments and the ones listed below are the how they are worded. Granted the blow post doesn’t contain F Bombs, but to me it’s more offensive!


“…she encouraged people who only paid $100-$195 for their seats to come and sit beside me in the front row cigarettes and drink in hand shouting ‘You, go girl.’

“she didn’t even have a reserved seat ticket by the looks of her”

I agree one hundred percent. This is far more offensive. I don't do stupid and this kind of mentality is just that.

koalababy
05-06-2008, 08:42 PM
bottom line - if you don't pay for the seats keep your butts out of them - the only reason those seats weren't filled when shelby lynne played is because she isn't big enough to be on that stage and they should have had dwight yoakum there - LOL..................and quit being rude and pushing your way into other peoples space - another bottom line - last year had a much better class of people to tell you the truth - more respectful of other's space and property.........some need to grow up before they come out in public!!!!!!!!!!!!

lina224
05-06-2008, 08:45 PM
Shelby WHO???-EXACTLY

abra
05-06-2008, 08:50 PM
the press has gone way too easy on shelby lynne. she should be publicly berated for her angry, ungrateful, foul attitude! i just hope word gets around the industry campfire enough that she's given a polite "no thanks" for any further performances.

i get the bummer of having empty seats... that's a tough problem to solve given all the factors involved. BUT no one else ranted on like that. they were all gracious and happy to be there. i'll be happy if i never look in that chick's "eyeballs" again.

koalababy
05-06-2008, 08:53 PM
AMENNNNNNNN!

sunkisses
05-06-2008, 09:02 PM
She sucked.....period.

bluesilv
05-07-2008, 11:46 PM
This may be unpopular to say but here it goes. I paid for GA last year and this year and pretty much went where ever I wanted. Last year I jumped a fence and got up close for Kenny and B&D. It was awesome. I didn't take anyones seat and just ducked security. I was wasted and it was a fun story to tell. When people asked me to move, I moved. I was very polite and having a great time. This year I got close for Fogerty, The Eagles and most of Saturday but hung out with friends in GA on Sunday. I had a blast all weekend. My point is this. Just because you are an idiot and spend $800 does not make you better than anyone else. It makes you a spolied, lazy idiot in my opinion. Don't act like you spent $800 to be VIP or close. You spent $800 to be segregated from people who can't afford it, you know the ones your better than. You got what you deserved IMO. You want your pampered crap than go somewhere where there's a luxury box and not a huge outdoor venue where the "security guards" are teenage Marines from 29 palms trying to pick up girls. A friend of mine got 10 reserved tickets from one guard just by flirting with him. That's about $4,000 if I did the math right. I think it's hilarious that people spend extra $$$ and they think they're better. Me and my friends had the time of our lives and paid for GA. I bet we had ten times more fun than you and your $800 could ever buy. Stay away from Stagecoach lady, it's not for you. You are not fun! Stagecoach isn't a normal conert. It's an experience.

misyg1
05-08-2008, 03:55 AM
Totally agree with you carol7lynn. You paid for the better seats and they didn't. If "they" want the same treatment as Gold or VIP then let them also fork out the money for the higher price tickets. Maybe next year the organizers should just do away with the Gold and VIP sections. Wonder how much the festival will lose.

hillbillyRockstar
05-08-2008, 05:47 AM
...where the "security guards" are teenage Marines from 29 palms trying to pick up girls. A friend of mine got 10 reserved tickets from one guard just by flirting with him. ...

I don't believe you. Why would you refer to the security guards sarcastically and then in the next breath infer they have the power to hand out large groups of tickets?

Kymery
05-08-2008, 06:41 AM
Bluesily

I dont think it is about being spoiled etc. It is like any other venue, Staples, Honda etc, you pay more for closer seats. I saved and saved, I am on work comp from major back surgery last July, I used part of our tax return, just so I can have a seat to sit in and not hurt. Yes I spent a lot of money, but I NEEDED that seat! I am sorry for those who cant afford, or fail to save up to buy them ( you have years in advance to save...start now) but I did what I had to do in order to have a seat, and for someone to hop a fence to get up front is frustrating. And I know from experience, if there are not any seats up front, it becomes a smashing pit, people pushing and shoving to get closer, its caos, I have had friends faint from being squished at concerts like that, it creates a safety barrier at the same time. Stagecoach crowd is way to big to not have seats.

I know the security is favorable to some, he let me up to the Gold Circle to take pics of Taylor and some others, then when the girls next to me tried the same thing seeing that he let me, he denied them. No, did not flash any breasts etc...just nicely asked and showed him where my husband was, and that the pics were for him, which was the truth. But I came right back, I did not take advantage of a section THAT I DID NOT PAY FOR or deserve.

misyg1
05-08-2008, 07:08 AM
General observation...
Sounds like we have a bit of you have it, I want it, you owe me, entitlement attitude going on with some of you posting. You want the good seats and begrudge those that have them...NEXT TIME PAY FOR THEM!

Cooter
05-08-2008, 07:12 AM
let's put it in other terms: all of this is like you owning a p.o.s. car, but your neighbor drives a mercedes and you take it because we are all entitled to drive a nice car.

Cooter
05-08-2008, 07:14 AM
I used part of our tax return, just so I can have a seat to sit in and not hurt. Yes I spent a lot of money, but I NEEDED that seat! I am sorry for those who cant afford, or fail to save up to buy them ( you have years in advance to save...start now)

think of it this way: if everyone puts $10 a week into a jar then by the time the show rolls around they would have enough for a reserved seat. not bad if you plan for it, eh?

Kymery
05-08-2008, 07:14 AM
let's put it in other terms: all of this is like you owning a p.o.s. car, but your neighbor drives a mercedes and you take it because we are all entitled to drive a nice car.

BRAHAAAHAHAH...GOOD ONE, now I know why my BMW was broken into so much! Too bad they couldnt start it!

Cooter
05-08-2008, 07:16 AM
Stagecoach crowd is way to big to not have seats.

haha, not quite. coachella has way more in attendance and has no seats...all of the english fests have even more people and have no seats.

Kymery
05-08-2008, 07:23 AM
haha, not quite. coachella has way more in attendance and has no seats...all of the english fests have even more people and have no seats.

How was it up front? I bet it was scary...I just remember my "punk" days and rockabilly days with all the issues up front, i cant believe i did the things I did to get up front, almost dying it seemed.

bluesilv
05-08-2008, 09:10 AM
It's not about someone having more than anyone else it's about having a good time and if security allows it then oh well. The VIP and Gold circle paid a lot of $$$ and got crappy security. Maybe they should complain. I was not lying about the reserved ticket the security guard gave us. I was B.S.ing with a marine security guard who was 19 and another security guard came up and asked if I had a ticket to be up close. I said no and he pulled out a stack of tickets. I'd be an idiot to turn those down wouldn't I. I understand where you all are coming from but the bottom line is Golden voice is there to make $$$ and they hire cheap labor who really doesn't care that much about their job. I was wasted all weekend and had a lot of fun. That's what it's all about. Having fun. It is not about people pissing and moaning about their posh seats being disturbed by "pee ons". If they don't like it then complain to Goldenvoice or just don't go next year. They will not be missed. Comparing sneaking up at a concert to breaking into a vehicle is a joke BTW. Every concert everywhere people try to sneak up. It's fun. Get over yourselfs.

Kymery
05-08-2008, 09:12 AM
We got Free VIP for Friday! (we only had sat and sun seats) a guy who worked for the Eagles saw us standing and said he needed to find two people fast who are fans, and we were just two of us, so we got sec 2, row 9, in the middle free from the Eagles themselves...no security guards. I guess the Eagles sent out their crew to hand out tickets. Talk about luck, no smoozing the 19 yr old guards ahahahahaa

Rose
05-08-2008, 09:40 AM
It is not about people pissing and moaning about their posh seats being disturbed by "pee ons". If they don't like it then complain to Goldenvoice or just don't go next year. They will not be missed. Comparing sneaking up at a concert to breaking into a vehicle is a joke BTW. Every concert everywhere people try to sneak up. It's fun. Get over yourselfs.


It's more of being disturbed by people who did not pay for a seat...sitting in yours and then being rude and nasty when asked to politely move.

Paying customers are always missed.

Kymery
05-08-2008, 09:58 AM
Blues, dont get your feathers ruffled, the car thing WAS just a joke...sheesh,

anyway, you seem very very defensive that you cant "afford" the seats we did. Hmm, get an education, or a better job! They pay $10 an hour at In-n-Out. So you feel like a pee on? hmmm Well, sorry for that, but we work our asses of for those seats so we deserve them! Thats how life is. When I was straight out of school I never, never dissed the people who had seats, I was jealous, but knew they deserved them if they can afford them. So I got my education, made money, married a good man, and NOW I can afford them!! (ok so the house payment is not made, but oh well) jk

All you keep saying in your posts is HOW WASTED YOU WERE...well jeeze, put one and one together, spend your money on seats instead!! But hey if your priorities are such, then you have nothing to complain about...right?

honkytonkangel
05-08-2008, 10:22 AM
Bluesilv...Seriously???
Maybe one day you'll know what its like to work hard for your money and be able to spend it as you please. If people want to spend the $$ on nice seats....why do you care?? And good for you getting around security and scoring some extra tickets, I would have taken advantage of those opportunities as well but I would have been RESPECTFUL of people who paid their hard earned money to be there and not act like such a P.O.S. Why do you have to put people down and be so disrespectful??? Not saying that the people who have a wholier than thou attitude are any better...I have the $$ to pay for those seats but chose not to so I guess I am riff-raff according to those folks...I loved where I was and wouldn't have had it any other way!!!:D

Kymery
05-08-2008, 10:59 AM
Yep, I had GA last year, so I am riff raff also, I just decided this year to try it diff after my surgery. I loved GA last year by the way.

carol7lynn
05-08-2008, 01:40 PM
Oh, for goodness sakes. It's not about the haves versus the have nots. It's about the fact that people shouldn't be offensive, pushy, or take what does not belong to them-i.e., a seat that they didn't pay for. If security or the Eagles gave fans seats then that's fine. I'm talking about people who scammed their way to the front and caused all kinds of problems inlcuding delaying the Eagles. We ended up getting 10 minutes cut from their set because of scammer selfishness.

I might have been an idiot for paying $800 for my front row seat but I didn't have to lie or cheat to keep it nor did I inconvenience other concert goes by holding up the show until security could get me to go back to my original seat-I was already there.

Carol-Lynn

Rose
05-08-2008, 01:55 PM
We ended up getting 10 minutes cut from their set because of scammer selfishness.
Carol-Lynn

We missed 10 minutes because of selfish, rude, obnoxious individuals that don't know how to follow rules or care about others. Now i'm ticked off :mad:

GeorgeStraitfan1
05-08-2008, 01:57 PM
No matter how she was feeling, no matter how many empty seats there were, there was no excuse for her to say fuck and use the finger. There were parents there with their kids. There is a time and place to do that, and that wasn't it.

GeorgeStraitfan1
05-08-2008, 01:58 PM
We ended up getting 10 minutes cut from their set because of scammer selfishness.

That's why they didn't sing Tequila Sunrise....

Rose
05-08-2008, 02:09 PM
That's why they didn't sing Tequila Sunrise....

You gotta be kidding me. I know your not but that's just not fair/right. I was behaving myself and I don't deserve to be punished with the people who don't. grrrrrrrrrr

Those folks should give me some of my money back, bet they wouldn't do that again if it came out of their own pockets.

abra
05-08-2008, 02:17 PM
bluesilv.... your assumptions are disappointing. you think it's only genuine if you hop a fence? everyone has their own "what's worth it to me to spend lotsa money on" items. i don't throw out $400 to go to stagecoach cuz i care about luxury ANYTHING! i care about the experience. i care about being as close to the music as possible. i love the grass party too, but when the music is on, i wanna be as close as i can be. that's MY experience, and MY choice of what's worth spending my money on.

i buy $10 sunglasses, $40 purses, but paid $1000 to sit in the front row of Van Halen because i waited 23 years for it, and that EXPERIENCE was worth it to me... NOT because i give a sh** about luxury. you're talking to some serious music appreciators here, so don't lump us all into one shallow money bucket.

GeorgeStraitfan1
05-08-2008, 02:22 PM
You gotta be kidding me. I know your not but that's just not fair/right. I was behaving myself and I don't deserve to be punished with the people who don't. grrrrrrrrrr

Those folks should give me some of my money back, bet they wouldn't do that again if it came out of their pockets.

I kept waiting for them to sing my song, I told my g/f, my mom, her friend, my WHOLE GROUP! that we weren't leaving until they were completely done so I knew if my song got sung or not... and nothing. When they did desperado, at first I thought it was T.S. but nope.

Rose
05-08-2008, 02:48 PM
bluesilv.... your assumptions are disappointing. you think it's only genuine if you hop a fence? everyone has their own "what's worth it to me to spend lotsa money on" items. i don't throw out $400 to go to stagecoach cuz i care about luxury ANYTHING! i care about the experience. i care about being as close to the music as possible. i love the grass party too, but when the music is on, i wanna be as close as i can be. that's MY experience, and MY choice of what's worth spending my money on.

i buy $10 sunglasses, $40 purses, but paid $1000 to sit in the front row of Van Halen because i waited 23 years for it, and that EXPERIENCE was worth it to me... NOT because i give a sh** about luxury. you're talking to some serious music appreciators here, so don't lump us all into one shallow money bucket.


I completely agree with you abra. Very well said. I don't know if I would call our seats "luxury" by any means. :D Expensive, yes - Luxurious, no

MindyK.
05-08-2008, 03:06 PM
I wish Kymery would make up her mind if it’s ok to sneak up front or not. In one sentence she is harshing on Bluesily for not saving up, paying for her seat and taking advantage of security to get up front. Her statement after the tirade about education and school says, “I never, never dissed the people who had seats, I was jealous, but knew they deserved them if they can afford them.”, but not two posts earlier, while walking down memory lane about her punk and rockabilly days she says, “I can’t believe the things I did to get up front,” Now, one would be led to believe she didn’t pay for those front row seats back in the day. The thing about this entire thread is, people who want to pay and can will pay for seats, but they are going to have to accept the fact that people who didn’t pay, for either financial reasons or common sense reasons, are going to find a way up front. Bottom line, deal with it. It’s a fact of concert going.

Rose
05-08-2008, 03:25 PM
The thing about this entire thread is, people who want to pay and can will pay for seats, but they are going to have to accept the fact that people who didn’t pay, for either financial reasons or common sense reasons, are going to find a way up front. Bottom line, deal with it. It’s a fact of concert going.

I would like to see people try to stand in front of the people in the first row WITHOUT proper tickets at Hollywood Bowl, Nokia Theatre, Staples, Greek Theatre, Universal Amp. etc. Those days at those venues are long gone and could be gone at Stagecoach with the proper staff that's trained.

abra
05-08-2008, 04:07 PM
wouldn't even need to pay me a security wage.... i'd throw those people out on their ass by volunteer. your free-loading, classless, bully ass can NOT encroach on the space i paid for. period.

this particular topic is a pet peeve. pushy people suck and they think they can take whatever they want even if it's at someone else's expense, and that just ain't right. BUT i'll tell ya, i believe in karma.... and it's a bitch.

horsephotographer
05-08-2008, 04:38 PM
People in the "cheap seats" are just as deserving as those that spend outrageous sums. I can assure you that the people in the reserved seats were drinking just like everyone else there. Your attitude is very elitist and doesn't speak well of your manners, sorry!

Life is like that sunkisses...
Most people believe if you pay more have a bigger trailer or just plain think there pretty they deserve more the others in this world...
Nothing new....
I guess if I had that problem I would have told them to go get me a drink and I'll share...
You know they would have had a hard time coming back at it would of kept there minds busy...
But basher all the concert goer's in one group plain wrong.....:D
Remember when people complain it makes them feel more important the louder they are....
Any important people out there?.....:D

horsephotographer
05-08-2008, 04:40 PM
wouldn't even need to pay me a security wage.... i'd throw those people out on their ass by volunteer. your free-loading, classless, bully ass can NOT encroach on the space i paid for. period.

this particular topic is a pet peeve. pushy people suck and they think they can take whatever they want even if it's at someone else's expense, and that just ain't right. BUT i'll tell ya, i believe in karma.... and it's a bitch.

Easy said...
Those security guys were out numbered and a few that tried taken matters into there own hands I saw carted away ..
Boy that anger got them further then they thought....:eek:

Rose
05-08-2008, 05:08 PM
Easy said...
Those security guys were out numbered and a few that tried taken matters into there own hands I saw carted away ..
Boy that anger got them further then they thought....:eek:

I COMPLETELY agree. Those security guys were really outnumbered and it became utter kaos. If they repeated what they had going last year (but improved on it) we had access to our seats through the VIP area. Instead of GA (big mistake). That way you gotta show a wrist band to get into VIP area and then your tickets to get into a side walkway and then tickets once again to enter the seating area and then have each section separated like they finally figured out on day 2 this year. Take a little bit from both years and that will work.

DISNEYCHIC2
05-08-2008, 05:17 PM
I COMPLETELY agree. Those security guys were really outnumbered and it became utter kaos. If they repeated what they had going last year (but improved on it) we had access to our seats through the VIP area. Instead of GA (big mistake). That way you gotta show a wrist band to get into VIP area and then your tickets to get into a side walkway and then tickets once again to enter the seating area and then have each section separated like they finally figured out on day 2 this year. Take a little bit from both years and that will work.

Here is my suggestion for next year:
They need to have a long short fence like they did in VIP with 3 different wristband/ticket check points. On the left side of the stage... Who cares if it takes some of the side general VIP viewing area... those are the ones sneaking in anyway....One to go in and one to come out...
Here is the Diagram
________________________________ STAGE
Reserved Seat Enter ONLY
_x_____________x________________x_

Reserved Seat Exit ONLY
_x____________x_________________x_


x = Security Staff.

It would need to begin before that bathroom trailer or right at it so people could get in and out quickly....

Kymery
05-09-2008, 06:18 AM
I wish Kymery would make up her mind if it’s ok to sneak up front or not. In one sentence she is harshing on Bluesily for not saving up, paying for her seat and taking advantage of security to get up front. Her statement after the tirade about education and school says, “I never, never dissed the people who had seats, I was jealous, but knew they deserved them if they can afford them.”, but not two posts earlier, while walking down memory lane about her punk and rockabilly days she says, “I can’t believe the things I did to get up front,” Now, one would be led to believe she didn’t pay for those front row seats back in the day. The thing about this entire thread is, people who want to pay and can will pay for seats, but they are going to have to accept the fact that people who didn’t pay, for either financial reasons or common sense reasons, are going to find a way up front. Bottom line, deal with it. It’s a fact of concert going.

WAIT, let me clarify what I meant by "the things I did to get up front", I did NOT mean that there were seated people or even seats there in the first place, and I stood in front of them, nor did I mean that I snuck into VIP, I am talking massive crowds, no seats what so ever, and the people that picked me up and surfed me overhead and various other fun things, in just a sea of people and the front was free for whomever could get there. Ever been to a punk concert or a rockabilly concert? well then you would know what I am talking about...sorry I was not clear...hopefully it is now, again my apologies if I painted the wrong picture. I should of re-read my post.

I ONLY would SIT up front IF I BOUGHT THEM.!!!

abra
05-09-2008, 12:43 PM
Here is my suggestion for next year:
They need to have a long short fence like they did in VIP with 3 different wristband/ticket check points. On the left side of the stage... Who cares if it takes some of the side general VIP viewing area... those are the ones sneaking in anyway....One to go in and one to come out...
Here is the Diagram
________________________________ STAGE
Reserved Seat Enter ONLY
_x_____________x________________x_

Reserved Seat Exit ONLY
_x____________x_________________x_


x = Security Staff.

It would need to begin before that bathroom trailer or right at it so people could get in and out quickly....

AMEN! Hallelujah! Hear the Angels sing! That would answer my Stagecoach prayers. Or better yet - what i heard up there somewhere is connecting VIP directly to reserved seating! That's too easy... there must be some good reason it wouldn't work. I'm sure someone (cooter) will tell me why soon....

DISNEYCHIC2
05-09-2008, 04:46 PM
AMEN! Hallelujah! Hear the Angels sing! That would answer my Stagecoach prayers. Or better yet - what i heard up there somewhere is connecting VIP directly to reserved seating! That's too easy... there must be some good reason it wouldn't work. I'm sure someone (cooter) will tell me why soon....

Maybe they someone will read my suggestion and GET HER DONE.....

Ajax
05-09-2008, 10:09 PM
No- That would be to easy! HAha

bluesilv
05-12-2008, 03:29 PM
BTW I went to college, graduated, got a job, make more than a $10 an hour fast food worker and can afford the VIP seats. If I went with a significant other I would have bought VIP and probbaly stayed in a hotel. I went with a group of 15-20 people so I went with the flow and partied in GA and the camp grounds. I wasn't trying to come off like a punk or a jerk. I just think it's funny when people think they're better because they spend more $$$. Please don't jump my case and explain that you don't think that because the truth is that you buy VIP so you can say you are VIP. What the hell does VIP stand for? Exactly....

Like someone posted. This is what goes on at concerts so everyone should just deal with it. The whole VIP idea at Stagecoach is pretty lame anyway with so many people sneaking in and a lot of the seats not being sold.

KuntryGal
05-12-2008, 03:34 PM
VIP - Very Ignorant Peeps?

Sorry guys - i just couldn't resist.....

Rose
05-12-2008, 03:49 PM
VIP - Very Ignorant Peeps?

Sorry guys - i just couldn't resist.....

VIP for me was not being able to hold it to be able wait in those long lines go into the nice bathroom and having to use the side porta potties instead. :eek: :D

DISNEYCHIC2
05-12-2008, 05:49 PM
VIP for me was not being able to hold it to be able wait in those long lines go into the nice bathroom and having to use the side porta potties instead. :eek: :D

I am not sure of the Porta Potties you went to... But I was amazed at the ones behind the VIP gate... (I don't use the porta potty as a rule... But when the beer comes a knocking)..... Anyway they smelled nice... Go figure.. :confused:

horsephotographer
05-13-2008, 12:11 PM
BTW I went to college, graduated, got a job, make more than a $10 an hour fast food worker and can afford the VIP seats. If I went with a significant other I would have bought VIP and probbaly stayed in a hotel. I went with a group of 15-20 people so I went with the flow and partied in GA and the camp grounds. I wasn't trying to come off like a punk or a jerk. I just think it's funny when people think they're better because they spend more $$$. Please don't jump my case and explain that you don't think that because the truth is that you buy VIP so you can say you are VIP. What the hell does VIP stand for? Exactly....

Like someone posted. This is what goes on at concerts so everyone should just deal with it. The whole VIP idea at Stagecoach is pretty lame anyway with so many people sneaking in and a lot of the seats not being sold.
Some times peole like that special name or like rose just want the easy access potty....
Gotta agree on most are like you say.....:cool: